Then, responding to those who have said he’s “only doing this for the money", Szymanski tweeted: “Yes, no fucking shit. I make games for a living. If I didn’t want to earn money from them I wouldn’t charge money for them.”
The game follows the premise of being trapped in an underwater submarine out of necessity to capture deep pictures.
People will literally complain about everything, no sense in trying to appease everyone all the time.
No matter what it is you do or how well you do it, even if you do it for free, a specific subset of motherfuckers will still act like you owe them something.
Especially when you do it for free. I write a lot of open source and sometimes the comments are real “nice”.
That’s awesome of you and I hope, while those people are unlikely to disappear from your life, your memories of ungrateful feedback last no longer than they would for a salamander.
Sounds like something a lizard would say
licks eyes nervously
I wish cities and elected officials would have the same mindset. Instead the best action for some reason has become inaction.
Best to do nothing, then have one group or another hate you?
You can’t please everyone so you’ve got to please yourself
10 shakes ahead of you!
Lmao…
AAA dogshit shovelware game increases price from $60 to $70 and some people are unhappy.
Small time indie dev bumps game price from $6 to $8 to keep up with inflation and people lose their shit to the point it goes on gaming msm
No wonder we’re the most abused market.
Well, one is a 17% and one a 33% price hike, so outrage is totally understandable! I’m not being serious, btw.
This is an excellent example of how you can use statistics/percentages to push a false narrative.
Cause you hear “Dev increased game 33%” and you wonder what the fuck is going on, and in that same vein a 17% price hike doesnt sound nearly as outrageous. Despite the fact that 33% is a paltry 2 dollars, that came with a massive increase in content, and the measly 17% is a massive increase in price for a game that is fundamentally worse than what was made 10 years ago in scope and content.
and to be clear, I am not saying RecluseRamble is in any way pushing any kind of negative/false narrative. I’m just using his % without context (within the vein of his own post) to show how things can be manipulated.
I agree, I hate it when I say “removing unemployment payouts to millionaires can save our nation tens of millions of dollars!” to be met with “that’s just .418% of our national debt”
"I like the business model of ‘I want money so I make something that I think is worth money, and you pay me that money and you get the thing, and we’re all happy’,” Szymanski continued. “That’s it. There’s nothing complicated or hidden here.
Lmao I love it, gonna get this game now
Also check out Dusk. It’s a full length game as opposed to a one and done streamer game.
No mate, I’m doing you a favour playing your game. You should pay me. It would be great exposure. I’ve got literally some followers.
And yeah, I’ll bang on about minimum wage being too low and I’ll post about AAA Devs ripping off their workers, but a lone developer asking $10 for something that probably took them months, too much. Too much.
What a sell out.
(/S just in case)
And what’s worse, half of those complaining bought Elon’s blue tick!
Gamers: Where’s my game? Why do you subject your developers to crunch? Why is it so expensive? Why don’t you pay your developers more?
Why haven’t you released the game yet, this is outrageous! Why have you released this unfinished and untested mess, this is outrageous!
Just print more money no
$8
Meh, it’s two dollars and the dev is an indie, at least it doesn’t go towards filling the pockets of a large publisher.
TWO dollars!!?!?!?
There it is. I knew that kid would be in here somewhere.
“You’re only doing it for the money” to a game dev is the same as being asked in a job interview to show all the git repos you worked on in your spare time.
People develop skills, and they often choose to use those skills to make money. We expect game devs to only break even now? F off with that shit.
The people complaining about a $2 price increase are the same guys harassing women on Instagram for free OF subs.
I hope this is clever marketing from the developer because I had never heard of this game until now and also because I can’t for the life of me figure out why anyone would abuse an indie developer for $2.
I understand some people might do that, but they’d have to be a tiny percentage.
People bully FOSS developers when their creations are free so I can’t say I’m surprised.
I hope this is clever marketing from the developer because I had never heard of this game until now
The same person made DUSK and Squirrel Stapler. Squirrel Stapler and Iron Lung are shorter games that have been popular with streamers.
I once made an app for Samsung watches for disc golf scorekeeping. It could accept any number of players, apply a handicap throughout the game so you could know exactly how you were doing vs your opponent with different handicaps on every hole, and gave a nice scorecard at the end to view. It was $0.99
Someone complained that I made them “throw away their money down the drain” since it didn’t also have gps to tell them how far they were from the hole.
Yes, some people will literally waste 100x more resources, in mental energy and time, than the price of admission to complain.
But my point was that this type of criticism can be ignored - if you get 1000 sales and 2 people turn out to be dickheads you shove them in the (mental) bin.
Dunno how Samsung store works, but ik on Google play you can literally refund the app in one click within two hours of buying it. I’ve literally just bought apps to try out before and refunded if I didn’t like them.
Did they face significant backlash? Or is IGN just trying to “make fetch happen”? I might have just missed it.
I believe it. A friend of mine raised the price of his game from free to $2 with a big update, and still kept the download for the older version free. He got all sorts of backlash, even death threats. These people are children.
Yes they did, just read the tweets linked
Tweets do not represent significant backlash .
Edit Significant backlash would be something like getting delisted from steam
A ton of people attacking the dev on Twitter is significant backlash. An earthquake does not have to cause a Tsunami to have a big effect.
Thank you for responding, but no, I’m not going to xitter.
IMO, not even visiting is very weird. Just use a blocker and steal their revenue.
As an uninformed, I also wonder why you think IGN would make up stuff.
They (including Musk) make money off of how ubiquitous it is, even if you’re not viewing ads. They leverage that daily view count.
No judgement, but if you’re visiting X/Twitter, you’re supporting them. As for IGN, there’s the “too much water” controversy, but basically, they’re just way too corporate for me…
Not using a service that you dont like and dont agree with is weird? Really?
It’s like insisting on always paying with cash imo. Does some ethics but quite a bit of an inconvenience if you’re in a queue.
Ok yeah, you can be annoyed, but your cash example is ALSO perfectly fine if a person decides digital money isnt for them
Yeah, I get the same level of annoyed on both of these. Cheerio
You can’t say things like that here! We are a bunch of nerds who cling so tightly to online privacy and morals it is practically our personality!
Nah it is weird, in the sense that most people really won’t put in that much energy to avoid a site even if it was to gather information. It’s atypical.
it’s called ethics.
Fuck you all, im going to go buy it out of spite
Buying the game now
Tale as old as time. I’ll just leave this here: https://genius.com/Tool-hooker-with-a-penis-lyrics
Cool song, question: why’s it named that?
Maynard James Keenan, the singer of Tool, is artfully insinuating that he is a “hooker” prostituting his music, and since he is male, he has a penis.
From singing about prostituting his music to now being a black belt in BJJ and having Mike Tyson train in his gym.
It’s crazy how things come around.
Consumers these days have so much entitlement. I understand not wanting to be tricked with advertising or wanting a safe product, without toxic chemicals or whatnot.
But at the end of the day, assuming that’s the case, someone should be able to make whatever they want and charge whatever they want. If no one buys it, they’re a bad business person. The end. But lately I’ve seen so many people doing things like starting witch hunts to go after makers of something they don’t like. Or trying to strongarm a company into changing a product by holding their reputation for ransom. Or deciding as a community on an idealized business model and punishing companies that don’t use it.
And the gaming community is the worst of them. Like if you don’t like multiplayer games, fine. Don’t shit on a game for like 5 paragraphs just to finally say, “See? RDR2 did just fine, we should be making single player games. Anyway I didn’t actually play this and neither should you. 0/5 stars.”
Like bro, this team worked really hard to make a game they believed in. They didn’t have to run it by you. If you don’t like it play something else. But people will claim you have no right to have created what you did, the audacity that you thought you could is appalling, and frankly… You’re an immoral person to work for money. Like damn guys, chill. Nobody has to make you games. I don’t go see Starry Night and write a letter to Van Gogh’s estate like, “I’m not a fan of blue”
I picked this one up a few days ago, very cool game concept and well executed
