• FiniteBanjo
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    9 months ago

    It does unironically ship with a rootkit as well. Not joking.

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      9 months ago

      IIRC it is still limited to user level perms on Linux

      If a game needs you to enter sudo to run then thats a problem… or a desktop theme

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          9 months ago

          …no, the issue with typical anticheats like EAC is that some studios simply want to avoid also patching for Linux, and the file system/utilities of wine can trip cheat detection

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          9 months ago

          Yeah there are a few specific flags that Vanguard looks for when it runs, you can easily bypass it by adding some flags to a virtual machine.

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      9 months ago

      Just like Apex Legends, Fortnite, and RuneScape, among many, many others.

      Anything using Easy Anti Cheat (EAC) or Battleye is also using a kernel level anti-cheat.

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        9 months ago

        Incorrect, League of Legends and Valorant both use Riot’s proprietary Vanguard Anticheat. The reason it has to run on startup and won’t work if started afterwards is because it’s a kernel level program.

        EAC does also have kernel level capabilities, and in fact conflicts when run at the same time as Vanguard, but your list is incorrect.

        Runescape (both RS3 and OSRS) do not use EAC and cannot tell what programs you have open.

        While too many games use Kernel Level anticheats, it isn’t normal or industry standard by any stretch of the imagination and it also doesn’t actually work very well compared to other methods so not only does it not protect you but it makes you more vulnerable.

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          9 months ago

          Every piece of unvetted code (like games) you run makes you vulnerable. This isn’t any different.

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              9 months ago

              If you play any of the games on this list that use Easy Anti Cheat the code has all the same access.

              The difference is that Riot’s thing starts on boot instead of when the game starts. I don’t think anyone’s rebooting for security reasons after playing Fall Guys or Fortnite.

              The complaints are somewhat legitimate, but the fact that they’re focused on Riot and not the dozens of games that do basically the same thing is… off. What Riot is doing isn’t much different than the stuff that’s already happening that nobody cares about (even if maybe they should).