Whether you blame Biden and the DNC, or the “left” voters for not voting hard enough; if Trump wins, it won’t matter. Get over yourself and try to build allies instead of destroying support.
Anarchists hate tankies. Tankies hate liberals. Liberals hate anarchists. Meanwhile, Trump, fascism, and Project 2025 is on the horizon. Reach across the divide. When the fascists come for you, are you really gonna ask if the people willing to fight with you are Leninists, Trotskyist, or social Democrats?
We can criticize ideals, but at the end of the day, we’re all fighting fascism.
It’s not Kool aid, it’s an understanding of reality. There’s no chance of running a third party or another democrat in this month of this year in this election .
Your only choice is to either vote Biden, and try to convince him to change policy, or do any other action and be fine with trump, who will never be convinced of anything, will happily build an actual Christian nation-state and is likely compromised by foreign actors .
After the election, hoping Biden wins, is the time for leftists to wake up and build a candidate. If trump wins they may never get the chance due to project 2025.
It’s like this:
The floor is covered in broken glass. You must cross it to get out.
You are wearing very uncomfortable high heel shoes.
You can either remove the uncomfortable shoes and walk in the broken glass, taking massive damage. Your feet will never be the same.
Or you can wear the uncomfortable shoes, safely cross the room, and then stop once you are out, and either remove the shoes and find new ones.
That’s fun fairy time, but it isn’t reality. You need to research how game theory, and the availability (or lack) of true choice works.
You are literally at the precipice of “do I like the giant douche, or the turd sandwich”. You cannot have anything else.
Edit in some cases (location dependant) chosing a third means you implicitly choose the distant other
I.e. if the third is closer to Biden than trump (even if very different, it’s all about proximity), then you helped trump.
Another flavor: if your district is highly contested, and a trump win is close, a vote for anyone but Biden is a vote FOR trump. You are feeding the uncertainty of contest.
Another non-voting/third party stan cosplaying as a leftist.
If im to take ur comic in good faith, ill make like the Spanish anarchists and still participate in the god awful system that we’re all apart of either way to reduce the harm it does to me or my comrades. Surely you will recognize that as praxis.
I like this one! In your honor, and i suppose JF Newton’s, ill paste what i wrote elsewhere as i see it as pertinent.
Youve offered no concrete ways forward, however, so Ill say for the millionth time the same: pursue direct action in any means by which u are able, establish systems of mutual aid (preferably very local), vote bc its the least u can do and your wellbeing does depend on it, and make friends and spread these ideas anywhere and everywhere. The future is ours, but we shouldnt sit here arguing against ppl encouraging any single one of those avenues. Theyre all necessary. Everyone does a little, some do a lot. “From each according to his ability,” and what not.
Weve argued time and time again. If u are a good faith actor, there is nothing here that u should disagree with. All avenues must be taken, none should be disparaged. Everyone does what they can, but some do a little more. Those that do more get honor and respect from the rest, as is deserved, but the rest get neither honor, nor dishonor, but they still receive respect as ur comrades.
Whether you blame Biden and the DNC, or the “left” voters for not voting hard enough; if Trump wins, it won’t matter. Get over yourself and try to build allies instead of destroying support.
deleted by creator
Why would this surprise you? Democrats are center right politically, they’re just as happy to flirt with authoritarianism when it suits them.
Anarchists hate tankies. Tankies hate liberals. Liberals hate anarchists. Meanwhile, Trump, fascism, and Project 2025 is on the horizon. Reach across the divide. When the fascists come for you, are you really gonna ask if the people willing to fight with you are Leninists, Trotskyist, or social Democrats?
We can criticize ideals, but at the end of the day, we’re all fighting fascism.
deleted by creator
It’s not Kool aid, it’s an understanding of reality. There’s no chance of running a third party or another democrat in this month of this year in this election .
Your only choice is to either vote Biden, and try to convince him to change policy, or do any other action and be fine with trump, who will never be convinced of anything, will happily build an actual Christian nation-state and is likely compromised by foreign actors .
After the election, hoping Biden wins, is the time for leftists to wake up and build a candidate. If trump wins they may never get the chance due to project 2025.
It’s like this:
The floor is covered in broken glass. You must cross it to get out.
You are wearing very uncomfortable high heel shoes.
You can either remove the uncomfortable shoes and walk in the broken glass, taking massive damage. Your feet will never be the same.
Or you can wear the uncomfortable shoes, safely cross the room, and then stop once you are out, and either remove the shoes and find new ones.
i am not fine with biden or trump.
That’s fine, but you are in a game. You have 2 choices. Your actions influence ONLY the possible success of one of those two names.
i’m going to be voting for cornel west or jill stein (or de la cruz if someone can convince me). but i won’t be voting for fascists.
And depending on your county/state, your vote will do nothing, or help trump. Enjoy.
my vote will add one to the vote total of the candidate for whom i vote. unless that person is trump (it won’t be), then i am voting against trump.
That’s fun fairy time, but it isn’t reality. You need to research how game theory, and the availability (or lack) of true choice works.
You are literally at the precipice of “do I like the giant douche, or the turd sandwich”. You cannot have anything else.
Edit in some cases (location dependant) chosing a third means you implicitly choose the distant other
I.e. if the third is closer to Biden than trump (even if very different, it’s all about proximity), then you helped trump.
Another flavor: if your district is highly contested, and a trump win is close, a vote for anyone but Biden is a vote FOR trump. You are feeding the uncertainty of contest.
Another non-voting/third party stan cosplaying as a leftist.
If im to take ur comic in good faith, ill make like the Spanish anarchists and still participate in the god awful system that we’re all apart of either way to reduce the harm it does to me or my comrades. Surely you will recognize that as praxis.
What does hate achieve?
Joseph Fort Newton
I like this one! In your honor, and i suppose JF Newton’s, ill paste what i wrote elsewhere as i see it as pertinent.
Weve argued time and time again. If u are a good faith actor, there is nothing here that u should disagree with. All avenues must be taken, none should be disparaged. Everyone does what they can, but some do a little more. Those that do more get honor and respect from the rest, as is deserved, but the rest get neither honor, nor dishonor, but they still receive respect as ur comrades.