It does mean the average Joe is sick of hearing them - again - ad nauseam.
In case you didn’t pick up on it this is your subtle hint that your cohort isn’t making new friends and changing minds, you’re just saying things that make people who already agree with you feel good. Not exactly an effective way to change public policy.
Build credibility. Don’t cry wolf. Wait until the facts come out about an incident before screaming that the police abused their power. A prime example is the cop in Columbus, Ohio that shot a girl who was literally in the process of stabbing someone. The keyboard warriors spent a good day or two calling the cop a racist monster. When the bodycam footage came out showing his saving another girl’s life aforementioned keyboard warriors lost a significant amount of credibility.
Set reasonable, possible demands. Do your homework. Learn how and why police departments operate the way they do. Learn about civics and public budgeting. Learn about the needs and perceptions of the public outside of internet echo chambers. Do not demand police stop responding to a certain type of call (mental health calls for example) until an alternative is in place.
Create a nonprofit, transparent organization to build credibility (see step 1) and communicate goals (see step 2). A lot of BLM organizers took the money and ran. Transparency is important in order to garner donations, support, and public trust.
Rebrand and ditch the extremists. Defunding the police without an alternative is not reasonable. Abolishing the police is not reasonable. Saying “it’s a tag line, our actual policy is …” is bullshit - that’s bad marketing that turns away anyone with even a basic understanding of civics. People haven’t forgotten the riots four years ago. Anything that smacks of street violence is a no go.
Thats all nice and good but it shows that you still dont understand what ACAB means. ACAB, or the concept that there are no good cops, is not a criticism of bad cops, nor a call for reform. Its a denunciation of the entire judicial system, and your solutions do not address it.
In Dr. Higgs’ words:
The Whole “Good/Bad Cop” Question Can Be Disposed Of Much More Decisively. We Need Not Enumerate What
Propotion Of Cops Appears To Be Good Or Listen To Someone’s Anecdote About His Uncle Charlie, An Allegedly Good Cop.
We Need Only Consider The Following:
(1) Every Cop Has Agreed As Part Of His Job To Enforce Laws, All Of Them
(2) Many Of The Laws Are Manifestly Unjust, And Some Are Even Cruel & Wicked.
(3) Therefore, Every Cop Has Agreed To Act As An Enforcer Of Laws That Are Manifestly Unjust, Or Even Cruel & Wicked
Thus There Are No Good Cops
Thats why we keep repeating ourselves “ad nauseam”, because most people still doesnt get it.
Thank you for this absolute banger of a response. A lot of actionable ideas that could lead toward a better state of things.
The people who think copy pasting slogans, seeing in strict absolutes, and talking down to people will change the world or their community are sadly deluding themselves.
Those 3 things are still true
It does mean the average Joe is sick of hearing them - again - ad nauseam.
In case you didn’t pick up on it this is your subtle hint that your cohort isn’t making new friends and changing minds, you’re just saying things that make people who already agree with you feel good. Not exactly an effective way to change public policy.
Any suggestions?
Sure, super Reader’s Digest version:
Build credibility. Don’t cry wolf. Wait until the facts come out about an incident before screaming that the police abused their power. A prime example is the cop in Columbus, Ohio that shot a girl who was literally in the process of stabbing someone. The keyboard warriors spent a good day or two calling the cop a racist monster. When the bodycam footage came out showing his saving another girl’s life aforementioned keyboard warriors lost a significant amount of credibility.
Set reasonable, possible demands. Do your homework. Learn how and why police departments operate the way they do. Learn about civics and public budgeting. Learn about the needs and perceptions of the public outside of internet echo chambers. Do not demand police stop responding to a certain type of call (mental health calls for example) until an alternative is in place.
Create a nonprofit, transparent organization to build credibility (see step 1) and communicate goals (see step 2). A lot of BLM organizers took the money and ran. Transparency is important in order to garner donations, support, and public trust.
Rebrand and ditch the extremists. Defunding the police without an alternative is not reasonable. Abolishing the police is not reasonable. Saying “it’s a tag line, our actual policy is …” is bullshit - that’s bad marketing that turns away anyone with even a basic understanding of civics. People haven’t forgotten the riots four years ago. Anything that smacks of street violence is a no go.
Thats all nice and good but it shows that you still dont understand what ACAB means. ACAB, or the concept that there are no good cops, is not a criticism of bad cops, nor a call for reform. Its a denunciation of the entire judicial system, and your solutions do not address it. In Dr. Higgs’ words:
Thats why we keep repeating ourselves “ad nauseam”, because most people still doesnt get it.
Perhaps you misunderstand. I fundamentally disagree with ACAB and all the other anti-police rhetoric.
I’m letting all the malcontents know that they’re not getting through to anyone or changing anyone’s minds, they’re just masturbating.
Thats your prerogative. But your opinion does not change the facts.
“Facts”.
Riiiiight.
Thank you for this absolute banger of a response. A lot of actionable ideas that could lead toward a better state of things.
The people who think copy pasting slogans, seeing in strict absolutes, and talking down to people will change the world or their community are sadly deluding themselves.
Or ignore all of this and create police oversite boards that compel police to back the fuck up and show some respect for themselves
That’s the main issue is that they will never be able to respect citizens until they can respect themselves.
That’s not something an individual can do. The previous comment was. Remember we’re talking to individuals, not people in positions of power.
It’s frustrating though