• KISSmyOS@feddit.deOP
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    There’s a reason updates are batched

    Yes. And I like to be the one doing that on my system.

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      And I like updates that are actually tested on silicon before they’re rolled out. Rolling distros don’t do that. In that environment, YOU are the tester.

      And You must be a fucking unemployed savant to be able to check every line of code being pushed to you daily.

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        You must be a fucking unemployed savant to be able to check every line of code being pushed to you daily.

        I get this feeling from a lot of the posters here.

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        Actually, I use Arch cause I’m too lazy for other distros (I’ve tried all the main ones).
        The simplicity makes it much easier to automate the entire process.
        I run my update.sh script before I install new packages, or when a news entry pops up in my terminal about a change requiring manual intervention.
        So about once a month I type in update.sh, monitor the messages for 5 minutes and reboot.

        Literally the only issue I had so far was a software from 2021 that didn’t compile on the first try cause it expected an older version of Java.
        Other than that, it’s the least buggy distro I know.

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          So, your personal computer then? Just one instance?

          Do you think that holds up when you are supporting a legacy environment of 200+ VMs and iron with code written by the cheapest consultants for 20+ years?

          Because that is a very different experience.

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            No shit that’s a different experience, who in this thread is suggesting running fucking Arch on their server farm? Lmao

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            No, I use it on my personal computer as well as my server and that of my org, with a nextcloud, website and forum.

            Do you think that holds up when you are supporting a legacy environment of 200+ VMs and iron with code written by the cheapest consultants for 20+ years?

            No. I never claimed rolling release is right for every system.

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            ::From the shadows, a ragged, scruffy, burnt out looking enterprise IT employee slowly emerges into the room. His button-up grid patterned shirt has a few buttons hanging on for dear life. His face lit only by flickering server lights and a crumpled cigarette smolder lazily hanging from his dry, crusty lips. His employee badge sways to and fro with each bedraggled rise and fall of his gaunt shoulders.::

            “Oh, you like your rolling releases and your AURs and your ‘cutting edge’ software huh?”

            ::He takes another drag before blowing a stench into your face that can only be described as vaporized despair. He then drops the cigarette into his coffee with a hiss, swirls it a few times, and takes a long swig.::

            “Do you think that holds up when you are supporting a legacy environment of 200+ VMs and iron with code written by the cheapest consultants for 20+ years?”

            ::His eyes narrow. The open source software enthusiasts who were moments ago happily discussing their personal computing experiences are stunned, unsure what to say.::

            “…Because that is a very different experience.”

            ::He turns and melds back into the server room from which he emerged, mumbling something that sounds like ‘absolute fools’ and ‘don’t even know about ESXI…’

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        Do yourself a favour and try opensuse tumbleweed. You won’t regret it.

        Also even on arch things doesn’t break unless the user installs a whole lot of stuff from the AUR. Since there are flatpaks around most people can get their day to day apps working without relying on community repos.

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          So you feel comfortable doing that in a prod environment where you support 200+ linux boxes?

          I mean IDGAF what you do on your local PC but a business environment is no place for rolling updates with the exception of the most egregious zero days, and STILL there needs to be on-silicon testing.

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            In a business environment with 200+ linux boxes, it doesn’t matter which Linux distro you like best. Cause you’re going to have to run a system with enterprise-level support and wide adoption to cover your ass and find employees who are familiar with it.
            So that leaves Red Hat, Suse or Ubuntu as your only options.

          • ☭ SaltyIceteaMaker ☭@iusearchlinux.fyi
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            When was this talk ever about a production environment??? Of course i wouldn’t run fucking arch on a server or similar. But the benefits bof arch on my PC outweigh the disadvantages