• KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    This ban is stupid and fuck those politicians, but this article is a little misleading and not a good source of information

    They never explicitly voted to keep confederate flags. That being said, one of the many types of flags that are allowed are those deemed “protected historical items” as defined by TN Code § 4-1-412 which does include items relating to “any war, battle, or military conflict in which citizens of the United States or any state or territory of the United States have participated in”.

    Funny enough, this law would allow you to carry an Iranian, Soviet, or other flag that would piss people off.

    I would recommend this article if you want to learn more.

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      Okay thank you for your information! I still wanna share a snarky quote from the article though even if it isn’t technically true in the case

      If there’s one time the Tennessee legislature feels strongly about protecting free speech rights, it’s when those rights involve a symbol promoting racism and treason against the United States.

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      Is there any way to get a pride flag to qualify? Large scale protests seem like they could be historic (although IDK what the actual criteria is) and it would be funny if a protest against a law made the flag protected by the law.

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        Not really, no. The AP article has a list of every exemptions and it wouldn’t really qualify under any of them.

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      I bet you could hurt some feelings by flying the flag of the Seychelles.
      (It’s allowed cause the USA flew drone operations out of the Seychelles under the Obama administration.)

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      TN Code § 4-1-412 which does include items relating to “any war, battle, or military conflict in which citizens of the United States or any state or territory of the United States have participated in”.

      Funny enough, this law would allow you to carry an Iranian, Soviet, or other flag that would piss people off.

      I dunno about Soviet.

      Despite spending much of the last century aiming a gun at each other’s head, we really never did much by way of actual direct fighting.

      A small number of American soldiers were sent into Russia during the Russian revolution to safeguard arms that had been shipped in and try to help get the Czechoslovak Legion out, and there was a very limited amount of conflict with Bolshevik forces, but it wasn’t the Soviet Union then.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Expeditionary_Force%2C_North_Russia

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Expeditionary_Force%2C_Siberia

      We had fighting with Soviet aircraft in Korea, but then the pilots were at least officially pretending to be Korean or Chinese.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_in_the_Korean_War

      Frustrated by the quality and shortage of Chinese pilots, in November 1950, Stalin took the decision to involve Soviet air force pilots in the war, flying under the markings of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) or North Korean People’s Army Air Force (KPAAF). Soviet air units dispatched to northeastern Manchuria to train Chinese pilots on the MiG-15 were first to see aerial combat against American aircraft on 1 November 1950.[16]

      Soviet pilots were active in Korea from November 1950. In order to hide this direct Soviet intervention, precautions were taken to disguise their involvement, open knowledge of which would have been a major diplomatic embarrassment for the USSR.

      Soviet pilots wore Chinese uniforms when flying, whilst rules were prescribed to stop Soviet pilots flying near the coast or front lines (where they might be captured if shot down) and from speaking Russian on the aircraft radio. All aircraft flown carried Chinese or North Korean markings.[17] When not flying, for reasons of ethnicity, on the ground Soviet pilots ‘played’ the roles of Soviet commercial travellers rather than Chinese or North Korean soldiers.