See title. For those who don’t know, the Mandela Effect is a phenomenon where a large group of people remember something differently than how it occurred. It’s named after Nelson Mandela because a significant number of people remembered him dying in prison in the 1980s, even though he actually passed away in 2013.

I’m curious to hear about your personal experiences with this phenomenon. Have you ever remembered an event, fact, or detail that turned out to be different from reality? What was it and how did you react when you found out your memory didn’t align with the facts? Does it happen often?

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      I know!

      He was constantly in the papers in the 1990s, major figure, every mac madra knew he was alive, where do they get this shite.

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        Yeah, I never understood that either. He was the president of South Africa from 1994-1999. Yes, he kept a lower profile in the 2000s, but I remember even as a kid/teen seeing articles and photos of him in the news. Bizarre.

        Now the Berenstain Bears one, I understand. At the same time, I just chalk that up to spelling. For what reason would I need to know how to spell “Berenstain?”

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          Now the Berenstain Bears one, I understand. At the same time, I just chalk that up to spelling. For what reason would I need to know how to spell “Berenstain?”

          I had one like this where I was shocked to learn there was never a band called Chumbawumba; they are called Chumbawamba and have been all along.

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            Next you’re gonna tell me their hit album was called “Tabthamping” instead of “Tubthumping!” Where does it end?!

            Honestly though, I thought the same!

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      Enough people that there’s this effect named after this happening

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    The Berenstein Bears one and the Fruit of the Loom not having a horn are the ones that have me questioning reality and my childhood.

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        Same here. It had the cornucopia. Then it didn’t. “weird” I thought. Then 5 to 10 years later I was reading the hunger games and needed to look up what a cornucopia actually was. “a horn usually containing fruit - oh - like the fruit of the loom logo” Then 2 years ago learning it never existed at all, and we all hallucinated it, there have even been paradies of it. It’s fucking weird.

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          Edit: The proof I mentioned is just 2 images of shirts with the cornucopia in the logo. I’m not so sure anymore about what I said previously.

          Its proven that there was a cone in the logo, the company is just acring like that for marketing reasons

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      There is a theory that the Fruit of the Loom one is actually a viral marketing thing. Like the company scrubbed it on purpose and is playing into it to build brand recognition.

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    I’m never sure if Castro is dead or not. I was sure for very long time that he died already but it would turn out that he’s still there. I also don’t remember any events specifically related to his death. His brother (?) took over and he kind of fizzled out before he died. Or maybe he’s still there? I’m never quite sure. I mean, it’s 2024 now, he’s definitely dead. Or is he?

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      He is since 2016, at least that’s what they want us to think.

      There were probably a few things that contributed to the confusion. Hugo Chavez was very friendly with Castro and he died of cancer, before Fidel. Fidel was also super old, and his brother Raul took a more prominent role a few years before his death, so there was less visibility.

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    I remember there was an AskLemmy question on the Mandela effect, but a week later we all realized it was just a dream.

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    Somehow I had always thought it was Klu Klux Klan instead of Ku Klux Klan. I’m not sure where I got that or if anyone else thought the same thing though.

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        The romans pronounced it “uike uersa” or “wike wersa” (two syllables for each word). The letter “c” was always a k-sound, and “v” was like our “u”, it was the same letter for a long time. So another example, if you want to say “Veni vidi vici” the historically accurate way would be “Weni widi wiki”.

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            It’s been thoroughly researched by linguists. The main source is the pronounciation guides written by the romans themselves. They describe how to trill the R’s and how to say diphtongs etc, and compare latin pronounciation with the letters of other languages, mainly greek.

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    When i got into monster hunter 4 ultimate(the one with a good story) i was told that Deviljho, a voracious monster that will eat anything mid combat to recover its stamina, will eat its own tail if you cut it. Everyone believed it, no one tried to capture it on camera because of the hardware limitation(no “clip that”, no shadowplay).

    Turn out, millions of Monster Hunter fans remembered wrong because it’s a hoax.

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      Ghost types are only weak to psychic in that game because they are poison types too. Ruined me for generations swearing psychic was super to ghost.

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          Venusaur is Grass/Poison.

          Charizard is Fire/Flying.

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          Of course it does. I remember a lot of people thinking Rock types were immune to electric attacks because nearly every rock type in red and blue was also a ground type.

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      I’ve never heard that before and find it baffling.

      Bulbasaur comes out of the gate with two types.

      Charmander becomes Charizard with two types.

      The first (or second) non-starter you encounter is Pidgy with two types.

      The required Viridian Forest had Weedle with two types and if you only got a Caterpie, that becomes Butterfree who also has two types.

      The number of two type Pokemon that you can catch at the start of the game is massive. Probably about half?

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      I argued with my partner so hard about this.

      Then we looked it up.

      I was soooo wrong. And I was the one who got Blue and Red when they came out.

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    I get the “feeling” of a mandela effect far more frequently than i can solidly know for sure. I guess my first experience was decades ago as a child. I recall staring at a Bernstein bears book, and being oddly transfixed by tye fact that the spelling of the title did not match that of the authors name, literally inches apart on the same page. Later i experienced a schrodenbug or two (which i think is the same phenomenon), and one really solid social ME were a church ceased to exist (or got merged into a neighboring church). After the first few, now I fully admit I am WAY too quick to believe odd circumstance is a ME, and usually find myself reluctantly disproving that to myself with notebook/journal entries… only to later wonder how they might change too.

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        Heh yup! That’s part of the effect, a whole generation potentially conflated Shaq’s movie with a movie that was never made. Scroll down the link I posted, they mention it. So bizarre.

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        Lol I got into a pretty heated argument with a group of friends, half of whom definitely remembered the movie and even started recounting some of the plot. The other half had no idea what the hell we were talking about.

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            Oh I definitely remember seeing the movie. I even remember the VHS dust jacket on the shelves of Blockbuster. But who the hell knows lol

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              Dude yes!!! I remember that same jacket! Thanks for preserving my sanity for another day Bertram, hero.

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    None but I live in New Zealand and have met a lot of strange people online who think our geographic location has changed.

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    I could have sworn Signs was a legitimately good movie when I saw it as a kid but I rewatched it recently and it’s absurdly bad. The acting is terrible and the cinematography is nonsensical. Roger Ebert gave it a full four stars. I’m convinced there’s a universe I grew up in where it was good and it’s the same one Ebert is from.

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      M Night had the hand of Midas for a while and I think a lot of people were on the hype train. I also think the general audience has become more discerning, epic TV/streaming series mean a single movie needs to pack a punch.

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      Eh. That’s just part of growing up. I’ve read the Shanarra chronicles 3 times: as a teen, a 20s, and 30s. Each time I noticed different things and interpreted events differently.

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    I could’ve sworn sprite didn’t have lime in it in Australia, yet I can find no evidence of it ever being made without lime