ICJ updates: Court orders Israel to prevent acts of genocide in Gaza
www.aljazeera.com
UN’s top court fails to order ceasefire, but says Israel must take measures to prevent acts of genocide in Gaza.

Who else is staying up? I legit can’t fall asleep, waiting for the verdict.

    • glans [it/its]@hexbear.netEnglish
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      10 months ago

      So far they have declined to thrown it out on the basis of jurisdiction which I understand was the strongest argument.

    • Carguacountii [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
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      10 months ago

      My bet is it’ll pass. US, Germany, and possibly (less likely) UK & Australia (less likely than UK still) will vote no, the rest yes.

      I think the wording of some of the requests by SA will be altered slightly, and some might not be mandated, but most will.

      Although it’s supposed to be without predujuce to the merits of the case, these preliminary judgements de facto are an indication of the merits, lawyers always fight a preliminary ruling even though its supposed to make no difference to the final one because actually it obviously does.

      I hope I’m right, but I’m prepared to be mocked as a fool if I’m wrong.

      In terms of what happens next, Israel will ignore it in practice but also do a propaganda blitz pretending to abide by it, the US will continue to pretend its ‘influencing’ or ‘pressuring’ Israel to play nice. But it’ll open up other legal and diplomatic attacks, and also raise SA’s standing and create a good precedent for others, so its good.

      edit; obviously ignoring the two ad hoc judges, who will vote yes and no respectively.

      • plinky [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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        10 months ago

        I wonder what order to avoid bodily harm means. Is it hidden ceasefire request, or bullshit around where they can say it was military target, sprinkle some ak47 around

        • glans [it/its]@hexbear.netEnglish
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          10 months ago

          I don’t know what else it could mean. What was the wording of SA’s application?

          I wonder if they are going to talk about what they didn’t grant and why. That would clarify it.

            • glans [it/its]@hexbear.netEnglish
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              10 months ago

              This is the language in SA’s application:

              1. If any military operation, no matter how carefully it is carried out, is carried out pursuant to an intention to destroy a “people”, in whole or in part, it violates the Genocide Convention and it must stop. That is why all military operations capable of violating the Genocide Convention must cease.

              On Aj Jazeera they are saying this is not an order for a ceasefire.

    • glans [it/its]@hexbear.netEnglish
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      10 months ago

      12:42 Israel has to refrain from genocide

      Ruling is 15-2 or 16-2 (they make 3 5 similar orders I don’t know the nuance between them all)