• MacN'Cheezus
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    11 months ago

    I’m an atheist. Your religion is nonsense. This guy’s religion too.

    So you admit, then, that you don’t really care about WHAT he is saying, all you care about is that he is a Christian criticizing other Christians, and that’s just what you need in order to dress up your hatred in a robe of legitimacy. You don’t really care about him or his message, he’s just a tool for you to use and discard after you’ve accomplished your purpose on inflicting pain on those you hate. And then you consider yourself the righteous one, because you feel oppressed.

    Because you’re not really listening. You’re not even reading this.

    Not true. I am listening. You said two comments ago that you are queer, and you have felt as though you have been persecuted by Christians for most of your life simply for the crime of existing, because some of them have made physical threats or won’t let you near their kids and school made you say the Pledge of Allegiance, which has the word “God” in it.

    Since you complained that I’m not criticizing you on your own terms, let’s pick that apart, shall we? The physical threats aren’t cool, obviously, but I do have some questions about them:

    1. Where they direct threats of violence, or were they more of the kind that’s found in the Bible (i.e. God saying he will destroy sinners like you?)
    2. Has anyone ever followed through on them? And if so, what do you think the church would have to say about that, would they condone this? Or are you simply holding every single Christian responsible for the acts of (a) single individual(s) acting out of their own volition rather than according to their values as a whole?

    As far as access to other people’s children goes, you realize that as an adult, you do indeed not have a right to that, no matter what your sexual orientation is, right? People will keep their children away from anyone they fear might be dangerous to their children, such as criminals, registered sex offenders, “strange men”, or anyone else they simply have a gut feeling about. That’s not an indictment of or a crime against you personally, that’s just parenting.

    Have you considered that you’re not really upset because they are protecting their children from you, but rather because your parents failed to protect you from others when you were a child?

    As far as the pledge of allegiance goes, sure, I suppose you can blame Christians for inserting “under God” into that (the original version didn’t have it). However, I would submit that if you are a strong atheist (i.e. you are convinced that God doesn’t exist), then you actually DO believe in a God, because the belief in God’s non-existence IS your God, in the sense that your entire world view is constructed around it.

    You don’t know how Nazis work. Par for the course.

    So I’m a Nazi but I also don’t know how Nazis work, is that it? Very interesting. Am I behaving like a Nazi right now, by engaging with what you’re saying and trying to understand where you are coming from? I’m pretty sure an actual Nazi would have probably shot you in the head by now.

    You endorsed fascism, asshole. You defend the bastards who want people like me to die.

    So Christianity is fascism, that’s why Christians continually exhort each other to mercy, is that it? And if they wanted you dead, how come you’re still alive? They must not be very good at this fascism thing.

    Fuck your self-congratulatory lies. Even your smug apologetics end with the threat of destruction.

    Yes but it’s not me threatening to destroy you personally, just to be clear. What I meant by that is that if you continue on the path of anger and wrath, it’s you who will cause your own destruction. As the saying goes, “Before you pursue revenge, be sure to dig two graves.”

    I am not trying to destroy you. I’m trying to help you identify where your anger comes from, so that you may have a chance to stop it before it’s too late and it ends up destroying you.

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      11 months ago

      I can tell you exactly what you’re about to get wrong and why, and you’ll still do it. You fuckin’ people.

      Since you complained that I’m not criticizing you on your own terms

      Incorrect.

      You don’t speak English.

      And if so, what do you think the church would have to say about that, would they condone this?

      And you know less than nothing about religious dogma and history. Just. Fuck off, idiot bigot.

      Have you considered that you’re not really upset because they are protecting their children from you, but rather because your parents failed to protect you from others when you were a child?

      I am reporting you to whoever runs your instance and I hope they scrape you from their service. Goodbye.

      • MacN'Cheezus
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        11 months ago

        Ah yes, a totally reasonable response. A simple “no thanks, I’m not interested” would have been enough to make me shut up. But you do you.