I fully agree we should be doing a lot more against climate change. The whole world should be.
That said these kind of protesters always look like clowns to me. Especially when their ‘protest’ is just to inconvenience the general public by blocking roads or pouring coloured liquid on something. You’re not solving anything just being a cunt.
You can still dislike these people if you don’t think they are making a difference. If they are not achieving results, these actions are just a detriment for everyone.
The “normal” forms of protest just don’t cut it anymore. When is the last time you’ve heard about one, let alone seen one?
It’s a (relatively) harmless shout for attention for a very dire problem.
Sounds like the Dutch and Germans aren’t that different after all.
Ours also ran over stuff with their tractors, blocked highways, rammed the main entrance of a city hall, and did some casual intimidation at a politician’s home address.
Peaceful folk they are.
This inconvenience can have a strong force if you piss enough people off.
The other option would be ecoterrorism e.g. destroy the next refinery.
Well nobody would get the message because the media would frame it as terrorism.
There are so many political decisions not done properly because the majority of people still doesnt care.
Everybody said that greta thunberg is a cunt the way shes used/doing her stuff.
Well few years later the topic is much more within common media than before. This is a success although she got the hate.
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fully agree we should be doing a lot more against climate change. The whole world should be
If you say that. Do you mean it?
What would you do to do more against climate crisis?
And dont come with personal things. Those are helping nobody as far as your own inconveniences.
Everything which targets more than a single person is required.
I am doing something. I still feel like I’ve brought a broom to an earthquake.
If my country stopped using fossils today. I mean not using any at all ever again, that reduction would be wiped out by the increase in China in less than two weeks.
And this is not to criticise China. We have a much higher standard of living, so I fully expect them to want to catch up.
No. Just people who dont want to think about the consequences of a climate crisis feel the urge to hate such people
Every reasonable human relates with the message they send.
There is a word for the former… right. Ignorant.
I fully agree we should be doing a lot more against climate change. The whole world should be.
That said these kind of protesters always look like clowns to me. Especially when their ‘protest’ is just to inconvenience the general public by blocking roads or pouring coloured liquid on something. You’re not solving anything just being a cunt.
You can still dislike these people if you don’t think they are making a difference. If they are not achieving results, these actions are just a detriment for everyone.
The “normal” forms of protest just don’t cut it anymore. When is the last time you’ve heard about one, let alone seen one? It’s a (relatively) harmless shout for attention for a very dire problem.
the german farmers did a “normal” protest (with roadblocks and running over police officers) and instantly got the politicians to act in their favor.
Sounds like the Dutch and Germans aren’t that different after all. Ours also ran over stuff with their tractors, blocked highways, rammed the main entrance of a city hall, and did some casual intimidation at a politician’s home address. Peaceful folk they are.
This inconvenience can have a strong force if you piss enough people off. The other option would be ecoterrorism e.g. destroy the next refinery. Well nobody would get the message because the media would frame it as terrorism.
There are so many political decisions not done properly because the majority of people still doesnt care.
Everybody said that greta thunberg is a cunt the way shes used/doing her stuff.
Well few years later the topic is much more within common media than before. This is a success although she got the hate.
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If you say that. Do you mean it?
What would you do to do more against climate crisis? And dont come with personal things. Those are helping nobody as far as your own inconveniences.
Everything which targets more than a single person is required.
They aren’t quite there yet. They’ve gone from “someone should do something” to “we should do something”.
They still have to get through “I should do something” and “this is what I’m doing”
I am doing something. I still feel like I’ve brought a broom to an earthquake.
If my country stopped using fossils today. I mean not using any at all ever again, that reduction would be wiped out by the increase in China in less than two weeks.
And this is not to criticise China. We have a much higher standard of living, so I fully expect them to want to catch up.
Thats very well said.
They don’t even directly reference climate, but
They send the message that they waste food and make themselves look like clowns nobody relates to them.
The message they want to give doesn’t get any audience by that.
If you really care about food waste inform yourself what the western world daily business does.
Again this argument is just a framing to disagree with those people.
Youve ever heard of ecoterrorism? Would this message come through if e.g. applied to gas pipelines?
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