dating is still oriented towards getting a woman to like you over anything else, some guys just don’t have a personality and body that sells well. That’s literally it, everything else on this thread is waffling.
there’s more than one kind of that guy. for example, i’m broke, mildly disabled, and don’t like churches or bars.
not hating women is below the bare minimum and gets me exactly as many cookies as I deserve for such a great exertion.
When I think of my former friend I grew up with that is permanently unable to get a girlfriend, he was cool as a friend. But he was a creep a bit to women, not respectful, resentful for not getting female attention, and it just grew and got worse - but I didn’t see that side of him at all until I transitioned lmao, I guess it only came out to people he wanted to bang.
What would you say the reason is for those guys who cant get a date for the life of them?
You’re touching upon an area that leftists (especially the vast majority of hexbears) don’t wanna touch with a 12 foot pole: male loneliness.
There are some thoughtful answers here, but most of them are your standard “be yourself and put yourself out there (there’s always fish in the sea)” crap that most people tell you.
The truth is that if you want dates/hookups/relationships whatever you need to improve your own looks and improve your game. That doesn’t guarantee anything, but you gotta do it. This means actually making your intent known, instead of “trying to be friends” first and then sneakily asking a girl out (btw she can smell this from a mile away, it’s better to be bold than sneaky). It means knowing that unless you’re super handsome or “hot” many, many women WILL reject you based on looks alone (as a result of the influence of dating apps) and dealing with it. It means developing a life that women want to be a part of. It’s more than just “having interesting hobbies” because as others in this thread have said, having hobbies alone doesn’t cut it. It’s going to be slightly different for everyone but most people can do it. It might also mean finding places where there aren’t so many men swarming around a few women (like many nightclubs these days). Interest or hobby groups may also be a good place. If you want similar politics, find a local org or something. Maybe some travel to try out different places, who knows. But there is plenty of advice out there that is concrete and actionable. Who knows what your individual path will be, but I’ll post a fantastic video from a leftist perspective on this subject below.
I’ve already posted about this but I’ll post it again, @ComradeLuz, please watch this vid: https://youtu.be/be_Ms3nVG10?si=-C2UfpC1TUPRqI33. It’s a video on this topic from a leftist perspective that actually gives concrete advice along with a solid analysis. I posted it here before (https://hexbear.net/post/613122) but it got less than 15 comments (many were mine so in actuality very few comments).
It’s very sad because if the left does nothing about it other than useless platitudes of “putting yourself out there” and “be yourself” these men WILL find their way into right-wing spaces and then it might be too late. The worst thing you want is a bunch of sexually frustrated young males not on your side. But oh well, I figure this issue will continue to be ignored…
TL;DR: Watch the next five minutes or so from this timestamp (or better yet, the whole video, IT REALLY IS THAT GOOD): https://youtu.be/be_Ms3nVG10?si=YuPWXVUSQfGspdiF (@15:58)
nobody owes you attention. be better. do more interesting things with your life. whatever you’re doing isn’t working so do something else.
and above all, the most important piece of advice: if your first instinct upon rejection or things not working out how you had in your head is to lash out and start yelling or saying abusive things then you aren’t fit to be in human society yet. kill that instinct by whatever means necessary. chill the fuck out.
“have you considered not being depressed\socially anxious or poor? Just be better”
sure mate, nobody depressed or anxious or poor has ever found a way to spend their time that helped them grow as a person or have an interesting life story
They do once their depression gets better though? Anhedonia, loss of interest/libido/attention/whatever the fuck else are symptoms of depression. I’m all for self-improvement, my own mental health improved greatly as a result of trying to improve myself, to the point I consider myself no longer depressed. But we’re social creatures and no one builds self-confidence and mental resilience in a vacuum. It’s often up to the depressed person to put themselves out in situations where this can happen, but sometimes it does not work out for whatever reason and the whole thing is a long process. In this situation self-compassion is a lot better than telling yourself you’re a sack of shit.
Also, isn’t the interesting life thing all backwards? If you like a person you get curious and find them interesting. If I like a guy I’ll find what they are into cool, be it singing, playing chess or knowing a lot about bugs.
No one is owed that kind of attention, but most people are worthy of compassion.
Yea and thats only possible with time and effort and support from others
Just telling people to “be better” is not support
And im sorry to say but sometimes when a person is depressed they might not have a “interesting life story” whatever that means
Nobody can change your life for you. If things aren’t going how you want, no matter what obstacles you’re facing, there are only two choices. Do something (literally anything) different, or succumb and wait for the world to drop change in your lap.
An interesting life story can be damned near anything, but it’s probably not going to be based on watching a lot of Netflix and hanging out online.
We live in an unparalleled golden age for learning hobbies for cheap thanks to YouTube and the productive forces of Chinese Socialism.
I refer back to my first point; nobody owes you attention. Does the sad sack you’re describing sound like a fun or interesting date?
nobody owes you attention
No one owes anyone anything but it doesnt hurt to have a little fking empathy
I’m a woman who lives in a college town famous for its high quality Electrical Engineering, Mechanical Engineering and Computer Science degrees. So the woman to man ratio in the 20-30 age group is like 1:4 at best.
So a lot of guys I’m friends with just don’t get laid cause the math doesn’t work out 🤷
Some of them tho… should probably do a bit of soul-searching first. Being dismissive about “female interests” like makeup and the gym while also being weirdly fetishistic about “gamer grill interests” like cosplay and video games just makes talking to them really hard. Like, they’ll always look at everything you say through a lens of “how does that benefit ME?” - Talking to them is a literal minefield.
Another factor is also that they’ll exclusively hang out in male spaces and just expect women to show up and talk to them somehow??? Like yeah, don’t sign up to ballet just to creep on women, but expanding your horizon beyond Friday Night Magic won’t kill you. I’ve heard Lorcana is great, and there are plenty of women playing it at my local game store… just casually talking to them during a game would be a normal human interaction
The virgin victim of statistics vs the chad gay sex haver
gay sex really is flourishing around here. My chronically over sharing work buddy says his body count has gone over the 3 digit mark a while ago. He’s reduced his hours to 30 a week so that he has more time for gay sex. Truly based.
