President Biden’s reelection campaign raised more than $1 million through online fundraising alone in the 24 hours after the president’s Jan. 6 anniversary speech, according to numbers exclusively provided to The Hill.

Biden on Friday gave a full throated attack against former President Trump, his likely GOP opponent, and warned Americans that Trump’s reelection would pose a threat to American democracy. The president zeroed in on Jan. 6 to mark the third anniversary of the U.S. Capitol riots and argued in his remarks that democracy is on the ballot in 2024.

In response to the 24-hour fundraising haul, the Biden campaign noted that they see preserving democracy as a political winner for the president in 2024.

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    the Biden campaign noted that they see preserving democracy as a political winner for the president in 2024.

    Preserve American Democracy!

    From the party who said primaries aren’t real elections, they dont have to follow results, and were lucky they let us have them anyways!

    By the president we’re not allowed to primary! He won an unfair primary 4 years ago and now we’re not allowed another

    Such freedom…

    In another 5 years we might get to vote for someone who might possibly claim they’ll fight for abortion rights, fix healthcare, or stand against genocide.

    Of course, if they lie to get elected we’ll have to wait 8 years for the chance to pick anyone besides them or a Republican.

    Sooooo much democracy

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        It’s a tactical move to avoid splitting the vote

        The only time a primary has “split the vote” in the general in modern history was when Clinton supporters voted Romney over Obama

        And Obama still won.

        Because even the majority of moderates know voting R is stupid. And no progressive is going to vote R.

        So maybe if Biden lost wed see some vote trump out of spite.

        But we’d likely see the same thing with Obama where lots of traditional non voters turn out

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          You just conveniently forgetting the time we handed Trump a 4 year term on a silver platter? Wasn’t that long ago.

          Fortunately for us, being the coalition party of change and progress in general, we can actually admit when we make mistakes and try to learn lessons from them. If we couldn’t do that, we wouldn’t deserve anyone’s votes anyway.

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            Are…

            Are you really saying a primary is why Clinton lost?

            Does that mean you’re arguing we shouldnt have any primaries at all?

            I don’t understand how your comment is relevant if that’s not what you’re saying

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              Oh, absolutely Clinton lost because of the bad taste left from her primary, 100%. She handled the entire Bernie situation very, very poorly and paid the price for it.

              No, this does not mean we should get rid of primaries, that is an extremely stupid idea.

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                😖🤚 getting rid of primary elections

                😏👉 getting rid of two-party system

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                But…

                Bernie supporters still overwhelming voted for her in the general.

                The primary wasn’t why Clinton lost, she lost because she was a terrible candidate and no one on her campaign knew what the electoral college was.

                And obviously, her team helping trump in the primary was a bigger reason she lost to trump in the general, although she’d have likely lost to anyone else too. The whole reason they helped trump was they thought he was the only candidate Hillary could win against.

                I just don’t see any logic or basis in facts in your opinions man.

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                  Bernie supporters still overwhelming voted for her in the general.

                  Got a source for that? I remember a lot of “maybe the DNC needs to learn a lesson.”

                  Which, they were right, and we did. But it came at enormous cost.

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        Only if the DNC allowed a primary, which they’re not this year…

        And the DNC would be allowed to influence the primary against me in anyway they want…

        They could even wait till I win, then say “nah, don’t think we will” and nominate Biden to the general.

        This isn’t my opinion, this is what the dnc told a judge, and the judge agreed.

        Even further tho, the judge said the DNC can continue to claim primaries will be fair even if they’re not, because it’s just a “political promise” and politicians apparently are 100% allowed to lie about whether they’re honest.

        The Court continued, “For their part, the DNC and Wasserman Schultz have characterized the DNC charter’s promise of ‘impartiality and evenhandedness’ as a mere political promise—political rhetoric that is not enforceable in federal courts. The Court does not accept this trivialization of the DNC’s governing principles. While it may be true in the abstract that the DNC has the right to have its delegates ‘go into back rooms like they used to and smoke cigars and pick the candidate that way,’ the DNC, through its charter, has committed itself to a higher principle.”

        https://observer.com/2017/08/court-admits-dnc-and-debbie-wasserman-schulz-rigged-primaries-against-sanders/

        So yes, I can 100% try to run.

        But even if I win, the DNC doesn’t have to listen to voters.

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          No primary this year

          Well yeah, they already have an incumbent and no one was dumb enough to burn piles of money running a campaign to try and primary that candidate.

          DNC influence

          Yes, political parties are basically private clubs, you join them, donate money, pledge support etc. They aren’t public entities any more than the Dallas Cowboys are. They exist to aggregate money and votes, and they elect their own leaders to manage those resources. If they decide to choose their candidate via tea leaves or throwing bones, no one could stop them, save to elect new party leaders.

          I don’t know how parties are run elsewhere, but thats how they work in the U.S. They aren’t constitutionally codified or defended in any way. They’re a shortcut for voters and super popular because they save people time and effort. If someone came up with a better way to all but guarantee votes for a candidate, it would instantly replace parties.

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            Well yeah, they already have an incumbent and no one was dumb enough to burn piles of money running a campaign to try and primary that candidate.

            No, no one had the option to try…

            I

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              Just so we’re on the same page, each state decides how it chooses candidates to put on the ballot. That’s the whole thing going on with DT and the SC right now.

              Derived from that power is the president primary, where parties from each state decide who to present as their candidate.

              The Democratic National Committee says “Ok, everyone should just submit Biden as the candidate and skip the primary” because that’s what they decided is best.

              It’s now up to the state parties to implement that decision or not. New Hampshire, for example, decided to hold a primary anyway:

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dnc-blasts-new-hampshire-democrats-over-detrimental-primary-plans/ar-AA1mArq2

              But it’s politics, so who knows if it’ll actually happen. I just want to point out that the national committee doesn’t have power over what the states get to do, it’s all just a power brokering game.

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                States can’t put someone a ballot for a race that doesn’t exist…

                It’s not that Biden is unopposed, it’s that there isn’t going to be a race.

                And the only ones that have a say, are the people running the DNC.

                Since that’s mostly decided by how much money you can pull in…

                How is this not the rich overriding democracy?

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                  That’s just not how it works. If New Hampshire decides to put Steamboat Willy on the ballot, only the SC could stop them, maybe. it’s kind of up in the air right now apparently.

                  Realistically, no one wants to give up that sweet national committee money, so they’ll probably cave, and it is the rich owning democracy. That’s why I kept saying you’d have to light money on fire to get it done, but it could theoretically be done: you just have to grease a lot of wheels.

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          everything I said is fact. It occurs to me in retrospect that the person I’m responding to doesn’t realize that primaries are essentially a private function. If you make your own political party, you can have primaries every day!

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      Don’t forget the part where in 8 years a whole new crop of fresh faces will be old enough to argue that you don’t understand politics lol

      Kill me