Kids are going to be weird and use their imagination. They’ll pretend to be an NFL player breaking tackles as they run through a crowded school hallway. They’ll pretend to be Optimus Prime and pretend to transform into a truck. Or they’ll pretend to be iron man blasting bad guys with their lazer palms.
The issue is when your friends have aged out of that behavior and you think it’s still cool to Naruto run up to them all the time.
I remember when I was a kid I used to pretend the weirdest stuff. Once I was sitting on a picnic table behind the school and I pretended I was loved and safe.
I did stop pretending like that pretty early though because I was afraid of being seen as weird.
Can you feel me hugging you in our hearts?
That’s cholesterol.
Heart burn too. Please make it stop.
Giggled! That too.
Me too soul family. If we pretend together enough, we’ll jump timelines. Want to?
Maybe you already have and that’s how you got into this mess.
You see me move back and forth between both…
I’ve almost found a balance!
It’s hard to keep it lighter than a feather; sometimes it’s heavier than lead; coming round to the understanding that’s also on me. (Believe it or not, some heart chakra with string drum helped me out of that rut while i slept. I didn’t purposely find it, it just was on after the video i fell asleep to. It’s no excuse not to do grief work though. And i’m doing that too.)
I’m glad to play and learn together.
Maybe the ones who aged out are the issue.
At age 16, you shouldn’t be playing pretend
At 16 you should be able to differentiate when it’s the time and place for it. Theater, role playing games, and plenty of other outlets exist for it as an adolescent and adult because it is healthy and fun to continue doing into adulthood.
Exactly. Sad to see that I’m downvoted because people can’t understand that there’s a time and place to let the mind work.
It’s probably because your comment leads everyone to believe that you think that the time and place are “never” and “nowhere”
Interesting how the tables turn isn’t it? Not putting thought into a comment and instantly making an assumption rather than thinking about it or even, and I know this is radical nowadays, asking somebody to expand
That’s an interesting way to say that your comment was worded very poorly.
Maybe put that thought into your own comments before you post them.
Pretend is where most great ideas are birthed. I’m sorry this timeline sucks so bad it sucked that out of you. But yeah, time and place, etc to quality that.
There’s an obvious difference between thinking and Naruto running down a hall wearing a ninja headband and doing handsigns for a jutsu.
Why not? I’m fucking 40 and while I wouldn’t say all the time, I do it any time I think I can get away with it generating humour to boot. It works cuz THAT’S my excuse. Loki backs me up nearly every single time. How do you think I survived a helmet-less head injury after getting hit by a car on my bike? Even my Nuersurgeon expected nothing and 3 mo this later was exponentially MORE shocked I woke up at all let alone able to speak even if back then I couldn’t finish an entire sentance.
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about
It’s like The Stone and the Flute by Hans Bemmann. Totally a fantasy until you realize what level truth is being given with no interest or need for facts. Such being unrelated to what is given.
And no, I am not a Changeling. I’m a CoX. Not that you’ll ever catch those references. It’s not necessary.
Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about
Ascension.
If you’ve just recovered from the head injury you probably shouldn’t strain yourself too much
I just finish my sixth year.
I’ that makes me so happy. To the devil with the excuse. I felt like it also works; but it’s good to have an excuse when the nails start coming out of pockets, unless you bliss right up over everyone who’s got the nails and hammer.
My excuse was was just a step in the path that improved my life. For as horrible as it occured, everything else got exponentially fantastically luckier than that one moment was unlucky. I could list a dozen amazing things that came together right therein after. The guy stuck around, had insurance, got me an ambulence…many many more things just lined up to improve my life right therein after.
Hanged man energy (hanging on the tree of life upside down) gives that perspective, doesn’t it? It took me kissing death on the mouth a few times before I got the perspective I really needed, though. Whatever, as long as we do the work to get there after the stepping stones appear. They’re not there to walk on themselves!
Lighter than a feather feels great!
If I get the cash and a good drawing beforehand to be sure a lot of the tiny little details apart of it are done correctly beforehand I’ll have exactly that tattooed on my back. The hanged man.
Tell that to the kids trying to be sports athletes.
Nope you should be a hardworking cog in the machine, a strait laced, early waking, labor generating machine just as the fucking capital owners require of you. Nothing like snapping you into servitude than the scorn of your peers.
And yet here you are.
There were definitely kids naruto running and doing kamehamehas at recess, but by high school, if it was ever known you watch even some mainstream ass anime, kiss that social life goodbye. Other anime nerds went way too weeb with it, so the only option is to hide your enjoyment and never make any references to anime in order to have some kind of normal experience. These days it’s super normal to watch anime because it was our parents generation that didn’t grow up with it. Now everyone is familiar with it.
That’s what tends to happen when something you like is ostracized. Either you double down and get even more into it, or you hide it in shame.
I remember in school a few kids had older parents that didn’t want their kids watching anime because they saw it as propaganda from an enemy country
The older generations “other” it by calling it by its foreign, non-english anime. Our generation that grew up with it just calls it “cartoons”, and it’s normal.
Anime as a whole has elements that differentiate it from animation from other regions, so the distinction seems useful.
Should we also stop using the terms gyro, kebab, burrito, schawarma, and kati, and just say wrap instead?
I got yelled at recently for saying I was watching what I thought was an anime. Can you help me understand the difference? Is it just if it’s originally made in Japan?
Honestly, there’s no specific definition everyone agrees to. If someone yells at you for your definition they’re probably an ass.
The most common one is yes, everything that was originally made in Japan. So “Pingu in the City” is an anime. But some people consider the artstyle first so they count stuff like ATLA too.
Anime and cartoons are the same word, just different languages. If you are speaking Japanese, it is always proper to refer to cartoons as “anime”.
Yes. Anime is just the word Animation used as a loanword by the Japanese, but Japanese animation itself has become associated with the word outside of Japan.
It’s only anime if it’s made in the Anime Prefecture of Japan. Otherwise, it’s just sparkling cartoons.
Strictly speaking, yes. So Avatar, Castlevania and Scissor 7 aren’t anime, while the Tale of the Princess Kaguya is, despite what their artstyle might suggest. (Co-productions like The Red Turtle can be considered anime.)
You used to be labeled weird for liking anime.
Nowadays people will call you a pedophile on extwitter for liking an image of a clothed Hatsune Miku.
extwitter
It’s spelled “Xitter”, and pronounced “Shitter”
hatsune miku :)
I agree :D
“oh no, people are calling me a pedophile for liking lolis” As they should. Lolis are why I hate most anime because I know they’re catering to the weirdos that buy their products. The whole “It’s ok guys! This character is 1000 years old but looks like a child” is always and will always be sus.
You’re free to water down the term pedophile all you want. It only benefits pedophiles and makes you look like a twitter user. Also funny how somehow Hatsune Miku is a loli now.
Right… not a loli. Whatever man, I can’t stop you. Enjoy your weird animes.
Hatsune miku can be drawn in any shape or form. Also, not an anime.
So just because someone likes something, it has to be for a sexual reason. Alright. I’m not saying there’s no one who’s like that, but it certainly isn’t everyone.
There are irl women who look like lolis do, should one be called a pedophile for being attracted to them?
Loli =/= child
(I don’t care for Loli myself but let’s not label people an extreme thing off of 0 evidence)
If the reason someone is attracted to a woman is because that woman looks like a child, then yes. If someone thinks the childlike woman is attractive for other qualities, then the woman is coincidentally childlike in that relationship. In the previous example, a relationship only occurs because she looks like a child. That is bad.
There’s a subtle difference between starting a relationship because someone looks like a child and starting a relationship despite her looking like a child.
The way you phrase it makes it sound like anyone who prefers small tits is a pedo, and “normal” people only like big tits, but tolerate small ones.
Pedophilia is bad because it is a rape fetish, not because of body shapes, and you’re not a pedo for preferring one shape over the other.
And you’re being disingenuous. If you google search “loli” it’s definitely not just someone with small tits.
Since the context is Hatsune Miku being a loli, and the only childlike traits she has being small tits (sometimes), I used it as an example.
But also, there is no absolute definition of what a loli is. Being short and flatchested is enough for some to label the character a loli, even if said character is an adult. And a character can be in middle school but still not be considered a loli. The actual age of the character is not generally important in labelling the character a loli. It is a body type.
Ah so we’re going with the “there’s no clear definition” argument. I know you know what I mean because no one takes the time to say:
“Nowadays people will call you a pedophile on extwitter for liking an image of a clothed Hatsune Miku.”
You know what I’m talking about because no one would care if you said a character like Kiyomi Takada from Death Note was clothed or not. But you made it crystal clear that you meant clothed because there would be something very wrong otherwise. You can have the last word if you want man, all of you guys are just making excuses for yourselves.
There really isn’t, just reads like you are one of those that call preferences “fetish”, I’m allowed to not find skinny people attractive.
Google “loli” and tell me that’s something you’re okay with full-grown adults being attracted to and that it’s a “preference.”
Fine, act like there isn’t a good reason for that.
Anime is child beauty pageants for cowards.
Well that tells us all what kind of anime you watch, creep.
Have you ever seen Mushoku Tensei or Seven Deadly Sins? These are both very popular and highly regarded anime. Did you find anything wrong with them?
I’m not familiar with either. I rather enjoyed Ghost in the Shell, Ninja Scroll, Akira, Dominion Tank Police. Some of Gundam is alright. I grew up watching Macross and Starblazers. I am rather a fan of anything Miyazaki. Death Eater is constant laughs as is Full Metal Alchemist. Sword Art Online and Black Lagoon are on my radar. Nothing I have watched has struck me as problematic, but I look for things that look interesting to me. Do you take exception to any of my selections? How are you choosing that you find material that you find offensive repeatedly?
Yeah, zero.
How is it you know so much then, sport?
This might shock you, considering the co pletely unrelated nature of this thread, but anime is kind of popular. Ever heard of Taylor Swift?
Heard the name. Apparently she flies around in a private jet a lot. Seems to irritate the Internet. Couldn’t tell you the name of any of her songs though. What does this have to do with you only watching creepy anime and then feigning shock when that’s clearly what you are looking for? How does it relate to my choosing shows and movies that aren’t piles of half dressed children? You protest too much. It seems disingenuous to me.
lol, to quote your reference properly “methinks the weebs doth protest too much”
Hey JamesStallion, did we have the same version of Mushishi?
My man out here talking about the parallels between One Piece and Honey Boo Boo 🙄
Seek help, brother
COLD HARD FACTS
You make fun of me now… Wait till I’m able to turn Super Saiyan. We’ll see who is laughing then!
That’s it, you really done it now.
(Screams for 47 minutes until hair glows)
Ha! I’ll let you know that this isn’t even my final form!
3 episodes of screaming later - hair begins to glow
🎶Imma charging my attack🎶
If you’ve never tried to go super saiyan, you’re not a real anime fan.
Oh good, as long as I don’t watch Dragon Ball Z I’m not a loser… Whelp, back to Rent-A-Girlfriend!
you are no match for my complicated hand gestures jutsu
Ok, so because I don’t like DBZ, I am not allowed to like other anime?
What kind of dumb gatekeeping is this?
DBZ is shit, slow and boring. The battles all look the same, just different things exploding. It freaking takes forever for something to happen.
God, I saw an entire episode where the only thing to have happened was them drawing names to see who they were going to fight in the tournament in the next episodes. 20 minutes with absolutely nothing happening. How can people even enjoy that shit? Any other form of media would get blasted with people calling it boring. But yet anime and DBZ get a pass?
It was clearly a joke.
does a Naruto run to leave the conversation
I know it was a joke, I just don’t like how people treat DBZ as some sort of de facto anime every anime enjoyer must enjoy. It goes beyond that single comment.
I got triggered, because I really dislike DBZ and can’t fathom why people enjoy it.
It isn’t just DBZ either, any 1000+ episode anime only gets that far because of the extremely slow pacing and constant flashbacks: Naruto, One Piece, …
Netflix proved how much faster it can go when they remade One Piece. Since they skipped all the fluff and went right to the important and fun bits.
Maybe I’m just getting too old and would spend my time with fun things rather than wait an hour and a half for a character to do one special move. I can watch an entire movie in that time.
– end rant –
I said that because DBZ is well known enough that even people who don’t like it, like you, know what super saiyan is. If DBZ didn’t exist I’d have said something like “if you’ve never unnecessarily explained what Pot of Greed does, you’re not a real anime fan.”
It’s the one that lets you draw two cards.
You seem to have been really triggered by that innocent and random comment. Would you like some mint tea?
Maybe they’re trying to get fired up to rage into ssj?
That’s is what it looks like when a Lemmy user goes super saiyan.
This is the kind of thing that people get made fun of for in school
Who cares? False self?
Can I offer you an egg in this trying time?
Woah there, I’m pretty sure that was a joke.
“I’d like to speak to the manager. Now.”
Yep, this is it
I want to upvote you for disliking anime, but must downvote you for abusing the word gatekeeping.
I want do downvote you for being a douchenozzle, so I did.
Freedom!
Also, “everybody”? No, it’s just a slightly larger percentage of nerds
And there’s also a difference between liking Akira and Studio Ghibli movies, and wanting to watch a billion episodes of Naruto.
or half of One Piece
We got the boomer at work to watch some anime, and he is pretty far from being a nerd. It’s becoming slightly more mainstream.
Helps that mainstream Hollywood media is complete trash too
Also helps that mainstream Hollywood has been
copyingtaking inspiration from anime for almost half a century.
“Willing to watch” is very different from “watches”. You can get most people to watch an episode or two if you frame it well/ to their interests.
hyperbole
Its a little wierd for me as nerdy. geeky, fen. Being part of a subcluture had become part of my identity but now they are just normal ole things.
Dude so many of the wierd nerdy subcultures are mainstream now! So many of the things that made me uncool when I was in school are now trendy, and trends that appear to be here to stay at that!
I’ve managed to remain uncool.
Here’s a short comedy bit from the late great Patrice O’Neal about typing: https://youtu.be/0PBtEPiPlrQ and how it was for him.
For me the one that feels the weirdest is electronic music, whenever I hear drum and bass in a commercial or some mainstream video game or something it just feels wrong. For me it was something deeply counter-current that involved a whole lifestyle and philosophy and placed you in fringe of society, and now I just saw doctor who raving it out in the last Christmas special, a family friendly household show. I don’t necessarily hate that it’s happening or anything but it’s just bizarre haha.
I laugh at the ones that have anime girls pasted all over their cars.
Funny thing is, the whole subculture is called “Itasha”, which literally translates to “Pain Car”/“Cringe Car”. They’re cringe, they know it, and they’re proud.
Damn respect. I’ve seen a couple of those in LA.
I laugh at the ones.
I laugh
And look at what’s happening now. Entire cosplays at school when it’s not even Halloween.
That is still the weird kids
this guy in college would masturbate to sailor moon
Plot twist, this was the US Naval War College, and “Sailor Moon” was the nickname for the obese cadet that liked anime and had plumber-crack.
One downvote came from a navy , apparently.
I didn’t like anime for so long because the fans of it in the 00’s had some very eccentric behavior.
I’ve been into Anime since the 90s, always had friends and wasn’t ostracized for it. Some people asked questions about tentacle hentai and Akira, but since was I never found any intereet in either all I could talk about was stuff I’d seen and I’d just tell em that.
I guess the closest thing to a real negative reaction was my mom walking in on the opening scene of Ranma 1/2 Movie 2, where Ranma, having been at the beach as a guy, was now running around topless as a woman. She didn’t accept “that’s really a guy who just got splashed with water.”
Nice subculture you got there, would be a shame if it was commodomified for mass appeal.
Anime kinda polarized itself by the time I stopped watching like 5-7ish years ago. Idk if it’s changed now.
But back when I stopped watching your options were:
- Shonen Reboot/Continuation
- Generic Candy-Colored anime girls at high school show.
- Rare 10-60 Episode mini-series that had no right existing in that era.
- Jojo.
Now you have “fantasy isekai with a protagonist that’s so overpowered it removes all conflict or stakes from the story.”
I seriously don’t get the appeal. I know it’s wish-fulfillment, but can’t our wish-fulfillment include overcoming challenges?
That requires effort, so probably not.
I still dont get anime. There are like 2 or 3 that I’ve watched, but I can’t really get into it.
That’s like saying you don’t get movies, or cartoons. You’re just not watching the genres you’d like.
Ok, what would you recommend? If it helps, the stuff I did like was the promised neverland, chainsaw man, and some of full metal alchemist.
Im gonna suggest two slightly different anime from everyone else. Black Lagoon and Saga of Tanya the evil.
Black Lagoon is basically a show about some mercs in south east asia during the 90s, and the weird shit they get up to also it can be rather melancholy at times.
Saga of Tanya the evil is about some poor bastard who picks a fight with a god and promptly gets reincarnated as a little girl in WW1 Germany, where they proceed to succeed downwards into a frontline role when they just want to be a rear line officer. Also they commit technically not a warcrimes.
Start with cowboy bebop.
I see this recommended all the time to people just getting into anime, but I’ve found that if someone doesn’t get anime they really won’t mesh with a hyperviolent and slow paced slice-of-life. I think it’s the same thing as people that insist Akria (or buckaroo banzai) makes sense - once you’re on your 30th rewatch, have the manga and read enough reviews about it, you lose the perspective of someone new discovering it for the first time.
Said as someone who dismissed anime for years because I figured it was all self indulgent wank like bebop (I love it now, but boy is it not a great intro to the genre)
Why is this so good?
One punch man, samurai champloo, cowboy bebop, and trigun are great action shows
I’m not a huge anime buff but try more mature ones. Gantz and Tokio ghoul come to mind.
The Tokyo Ghoul anime post-s1 is a rushed mess lol.
Which is a shame cuz the manga is fucking fantastic
Darker than black is a real good one along those lines, full dub too
I feel it’s same way with people that enjoy series for example, different strokes for different folks, I grew with dbz it was huge where I lived to the point kids would skip classes to watch it, so watching anime grew from that, I don’t enjoy shows like Game of Thrones or things like Family Guy, but there’s others of the same genre that I do watch, again preferences do matter, maybe you won’t enjoy an anime series but maybe you will just a movie something like Redline, Spirited Away…
What I’m trying to say is don’t feel pressured into liking it, do you.
I don’t feel pressured, ive just tried it a few times and could really get what made people like it so much.
Because modern anime has a lot of mass produced trash. It’s no ranma 1/2 or utena or Saint seya or macross, Gundam, cowboy bebop, outlaw star, cat’s eye, lupin iii, etc… there are ton of well produced anime before 2000 that are actually good. Some are confusing messes but at least look amazing. I tried watching bleach and the newer stuff is just so boring and cringey.
I mean… there’s plenty of good stuff post-2000.
And plenty of stuff pre-2000 sucked, you just didn’t hear about it because only the big hits got imported.
You probably aren’t autistic enough. The way anime is directed, and more often then not the main content tend to be quite autistic. I especially always found romance in anime to make no sense, but after seeing autistic people in my social circle get into relationships it was almost identical to what I was struggling to understand. The cast of cutesy characters in anime of that sort almost always have a few characters that are autistic. Key for example had a semi non verbal girl in one of their works, and the recurring chuunibyou has gotten a “holy shit that character is me as a kid” from a few people with Asperger’s that I know.
They hated you because you spoke the truth lul.
No but seriously, besides your use of those terms you’re not wrong. The characters in a lot of anime don’t act like regular people (I get it they’re in non realistic situations). Especially in romance, it’s one of my pet peeves actually. You helped this girl up from a fall/defended her once/said something nice about her/is your childhood friend once, whan yall were kids and now she’s in love with you and wants to marry you forever. It all stems from the nature and target audience of anime, they’re aimed at kids/teens mostly and have to be relatively simple and they have to repeat key info relatively often which makes them seem autistic sometimes. I’m not saying all anime is like this, just most of them plus I’ve noticed it’s been getting better and better since I graduated high-school a decade ago.
