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Which prompts Stiller, ever the pragmatist, to think, “Time is valuable.” That’s why he and “Severance” showrunner Dan Erickson and the writing team have been spending much of the year planning Season 3 so that Stiller can step away and direct this feature film that tells the true story of a downed airman in occupied France and how he got involved with the French Resistance. Stiller also wants to make a movie based on the Rachel Maddow podcast “Bag Man,” detailing the bribery scandal surrounding Spiro Agnew, Richard Nixon’s vice president.
tells the true story of a downed airman in occupied France and how he got involved with the French Resistance
My grandfather went through this exact circumstance. The French Resistance helped him get to a secret camp full of British and American soldiers, and they spent most of the war hiding in the countryside and digging little holes so they could play mini-golf with hand-carved clubs.
Oh brother, apple is about to make this Series something terrible
I mean, he’s not the showrunner.
His direction great (Stiller is one of the brilliant directors you immediately forget is a brilliant director, kinda like Ben Affleck), but given that he’s still working on the show and isn’t the creator or the main writer that’s probably not what this is. Then again what they say and what’s actually going on may not be the same thing.
He’s not been the only director on the show. I think it can go on without him given all that has been done already. Maybe he’ll come back the the final season if lasts.
Yeah I’ve seen that he’s also not the main writer, which I forgot, I hope it goes well
Not only not the solo director, but I’d go so far as to say his direction didn’t really stand out other than to maybe establish the production design, but that’s rarely a solo effort.
Through 2 seasons, the only episode that immediately made me want to know who directed it was Chikhai Bardo directed by Jessica Lee Gagné. It felt special, cinematic, while watching it. And watching the after episode feature, which I rarely do, was rewarding to see how she achieved some shots, particularly the one most people assumed was CGI of the cable network oner between the floors. Now I can’t wait to see what she does next.
One thing I want to add, though I am not trying to take away from what you wrote. While the parts of the shot were filmed practically, there was still VFX involved and one CGI part that she clarified afterwards (the part where the camera passes through the vents).People today are very careful with their words since they believe using cgi today takes away from the magic.
Hard to say. This was just a “sucking off Ben Stiller” publicity piece, presumably to hype his next project.
Seems like they’ve got a screenplay for the next season or two sketched out. And the show is relatively cheap to film, given that its effectively a series of bottle episodes with one or two big splashy set pieces thrown in. If AppleTV wasn’t bleeding billions as the other-other-other streaming service, I’d say it was as safe as anything in their lineup.
Let it go. I barely finished 2.
Different, interesting… played out.
wait there’s going to be another season?
Would be kind of cruel to end things on the season 2 finale cliffhanger.
Idk, don’t get me wrong, I’m going to devour a new season day 1. But the two of them running headlong into certain doom… Idk, I could be happy in a world where we don’t see that doom.
Except Apple hasn’t been doing binge releases. They do weekly episodes which is great for drumming up discussion.
I feel like you missed the point of their post.
Its another Lost, we’ll be saying that for every season, lol.
I love Severance, but it’s obvious every season is going to end with an escalating series of increasingly higher stakes and further down the rabbit hole questions.
I’m here for it, but I also have to admit there’s a level of dissatisfaction I find myself in when engaging with this style of show writing. All I can say is I hope the ending wraps it all up nicely.
As far as Ben Stiller leaving the show, we’ll have to see if the other writers can pull it off, of which I’m fairly confident they can. Ben wrote some great episodes, but IIRC there were great episodes all around with all their writers, so I have no worries the series will remain high quality.
The show’s creator, Dan Erickson, has stated multiple times that he has an end point in mind, but he is flexible about how long it will take to get there. So not quite as good as Vince Gilligan’s “I’m telling a five season story” but still much better than Abram’s style of writing a mystery with no solution and hoping it comes to him later.
I’m not sure an ending without a clear timeline is actually worth much. How can you properly pace all the various elements if you haven’t decided when they’ll conclude? Game of Thrones had an ending, and all the major moments are things that were planned well in advance. However, because the people making it were “flexible” about the total number of seasons right up until they decided to end it, none of the conclusions in the final season felt satisfying and the overwhelming consensus was that the show got nowhere close to delivering on the hype it deservedly built early on. Sorry to be a doomer, I know people are big on Severance right now, but I agree with the previous commenter that it has massive red flags after Season 2.
I do take your point, but Game of Thrones is a hilarious example for you to use considering G.R.R.M’s indecisiveness concerning how long the series would be over the years. First it was a Trilogy, then four books, then six, now seven. He was literally flexible about the total number of books to get to his ending, exactly the point you are trying to counter. And D&D were anything but Flexible. They were advised by Martin on how to pace the ending and they ignored him. They were offered more seasons by HBO and turned them down. They rushed the ending to go make a Disney Star Wars and I don’t really see how that’s here nor there unless your concern is that the series will be rushed or directionless without Stiller, and I’d say it still has its creator and good writers behind it so there’s still hope. Doom and hope are equally worthless, though. We’ll just have to wait and see what happens.
HBO only had a plan for a minimum of 7 seasons, there was no decision made about how many additional seasons were needed to conclude the story. Because it was flexible about its timeline, it allowed the showrunners the flexibility to cut the show short at 8 seasons and go elsewhere. If there had been a clear plan from the beginning about how long the show needed to run for to reach a satisfying conclusion, it would have been far less likely to run out of time and rush its ending. Maybe your point here is that there is no way anyone at HBO could have made such a plan because it was completely beholden to Martin’s own writing, but I don’t think this argument works at all considering modern TV adaptations frequently ignore source material (which is what a lot of people assumed happened with the GoT ending, despite that not really being true). Taking a relaxed attitude to the planning of these multiple-season serial shows can put the entire production at risk if problems occur later on (which is not insignificant, given how long they are in production for). Doubly so for mystery box series like Severance that are built upon an ever expanding list of questions to drive viewer speculation and engagement.
modern TV adaptations frequently ignore source material (which is what a lot of people assumed happened with the GoT ending, despite that not really being true).
I gotta ask, have you read the books? No shade if you haven’t, but that definitely is true. D&D had strayed from the source material long before they ran out of it. The bullet points of the ending may have been from Martin but there’s no way their ending is even close to what will/might happen in the books assuming their completion because the two are simply too different.
And on Martin’s advice HBO offered them three more seasons to wrap up the show rather than one. This was a huge gesture as the cast was becoming wildly famous and would have cost a fortune to keep on for that long. The showrunners deliberately chose to rush the ending and that one of many reasons why it sucked so bad.
I don’t know if I really have an argument here. I generally agree with what you’re saying, I just like talkin’ Thrones.
Meh. The first season was good, but I feel like it pretty much could’ve ended there. The second one felt kind of drawn out and dull to me.
The first season ended on a cliffhanger.
Do you also enjoy videos of people cutting cake asymmetrically?
I bet they also enjoy comments that
That what!? WHAT!? TELL ME, DAMN YOU! I must know before I can sleep tonight!
I, too, have been heavily down voted for my opinions on this show (editor’s note: at the time I’ve typed out this response, the comment I’m responding too is considered controversial based on the vote ratio).
I don’t think you’re entirely wrong, depending on what you mean by “pretty much”.
If you consider season 1 and the first episode of season 2 (not even the full episode, just the parts that provide closure to season 1), then yes, the story could definitely have ended there. Perhaps with a few open questions and unresolved story arcs.
My biggest complaint is that the ending of season 1 really just came across as disrespectful to viewers, particularly in light of how long it was between seasons. Almost has the air of contempt to it. Shit happens, you can’t plan for everything, and even great shows get cancelled. Best of intentions don’t guarantee that a second season is coming, and that’s what they left people with for years.
Having said that, I’m glad that there is a second season, but personally, with such a long stretch between seasons and the fact that the second season didn’t really live up to my expectations after so long, I’m kinda meh on where things go from here or even if things go from here.
My biggest complaint is that the ending of season 1 really just came across as disrespectful to viewers, particularly in light of how long it was between seasons.
Maybe this coloured my opinion of it, but I watched them back-to-back. I didn’t experience that feeling of being disrespected by the wait. I just heard it was good, and watched what was available.
For the first season I felt like it was a really interesting concept, and I was excited to see how it developed. The second season just seemed like it’d lost its way to me, and they were drawing it out.
