• PoPoP@lemm.eeEnglish
    205·
    10 hours ago

    Every rifle used by law enforcement ought to have a silencer. If they’re gonna murder someone the absolute rock bottom very least they can do is not cause severe permanent hearing damage to a hundred other people in the vicinity.

    It’s not like it’s a stealth thing. It’s not going to do anything to prevent detection and they don’t give a shit about that anyway. This isn’t a James Bond or John Wick movie so let’s not pretend silenced gunshots aren’t still unbelievably loud.

    A better question is how can other cops bring a rifle into a densely populated area WITHOUT a silencer?

    • Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      9 hours ago

      Single shots from rifles do not cause permanent hearing loss.

      A better question is how can other cops bring a rifle into a densely populated area WITHOUT a silencer?

      I dont even know how to respond to this part. Maybe don’t have the cops come in with the expectations to use the weapon?

      • jonesey71@lemmus.orgEnglish
        3·
        6 hours ago

        I would prefer the cops not have any guns at all. They would certainly be more polite. If they are going to go do something that would need a gun they need a warrant and then 5 pages of requisition forms filled out in triplicate to request the guns.

      • Almacca@aussie.zoneEnglish
        1·
        6 hours ago

        It’s not like they’ve been trained in any de-escalation techniques, if they’ve been trained at all.

    • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      6 hours ago

      serious question about guns and silencers, but if it was just a tiny gun, would it not be pretty quiet and work as expected like if someone was in a bathroom and the people in the bar wouldn’t hear it?

      The bigger the gun the more noise it’d make though for sure.

      • domdanial@reddthat.comEnglish
        3·
        6 hours ago

        A suppressor on a subsonic .22 caliber gun is about as close to movie/video game quiet as you can expect. There is still variation, but subsonic ammo eliminates the “crack” from the sonic boom (comes from the bullet itself), and the suppressor reduces the muzzle noise a lot. In person I’ve heard one suppressed subsonic .22, and it was about the level of a good clap. 👏

        • modus@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          6 hours ago

          When shoot subsonic suppressed 22lr, you hear the click of the action and the bullet whizzing down the range. It’s crazy.

          • domdanial@reddthat.comEnglish
            1·
            4 hours ago

            Must have been a quieter one than I heard then lol. I’ve seen videos like that, I just assumed they were like, absolute best case purpose built

      • modus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        6 hours ago

        A good answer to your question needs more specifics, but in general, suppressed handguns with home-defense or target ammo are still loud enough to gain attention.

        On the other hand, subsonic ammo will be pretty quiet and reduce the noise drastically, but unless you have the semi-auto mechanics tuned properly, the gun won’t cycle the next round in very well. I can’t speak to the stopping power of subsonic ammo but again, it probably requires specifics to give an accurate answer.