• testfactor@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I mean, Russia “hadn’t chosen” to invade Ukraine for decades, and then they did. Things can, and in fact do change.

    And it’s not like the past year has been super calm in the region. Israel (who they would almost certainly be using the nukes on) has been popping off. So that seems like a pretty good reason to “now so choose” that wasn’t the case a decade ago (to the same degree).

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      2 days ago

      Russia has been consistently invading Ukraine since 2014. In 2022 they escalated. Before that they attacked Georgia, and got a madman into power through orchestrating terrorist attacks.

      Iran has been consistently “a year away from nukes” since 92’ according to Israel. Nothing changed, just the fact that as you said Israel has been “popping off” and murdering and destabilizing every country around them.

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        2 days ago

        I was referring to 2014 when I said that, but it’s neither here nor there. Especially since it’s not like Iran hasn’t been actively shooting missiles at Israel for decades.

        And I’m not stan-ing for Israel here. I agree that their behavior has been terrible and has been doing terrible things to their neighbors. But that is in fact something that has changed that could push Iran towards a nuclear option. And as bad as Israel is being, it would still be very very bad if Iran nukes them.

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          1 day ago

          Yes, it would be bad. But Iran has been cooperating so far until Trump fucked everything up. That’s the thing that changed - letting Israel run rampant, killing everyone they want without a peep (or just strongly worded letters). There is no difference between Iran cooperating and having nuclear power plants, and Iran not cooperating, trying to make nukes. They were attacked because “Israel could”, not because there was danger of them getting a nuclear bomb.

          It is a manufactured casus beli to hit a sovereign state, murder its military brass, politicians and scientists. It is literally the same logic that Russia used against Ukraine - and equally as nonsensical as it was then - the “they were going to attack me and so I attacked them” excuse.