Sadly there are a bunch of libs on hexbear that still cannot separate anti-semitism from anti-zionism.
This has not been my experience at all. I think this community is pretty great at citicising Israel while still calling out when the criticism starts to veer into the conspiracy brained shit.
I don’t know if you’re making some accusation here, but please don’t tell me that pointing out Israel’s lobby groups exist or that that Israel committing genocide is anti-semitic, that shit doesn’t work on me.
No absolutely not. I’m well aware of the power of the Israeli lobbying groups and Israels genocide of Palestinians, there was a few too many sus conspiracy takes for my liking. “jews Israel control the media” being one the ones that stood out the most. The bourgeoisie control the media, and maintaining US and western hegemony is their primary goal. Israel is just a tool to project US/western influence in the middle east. As Joe Biden said in 1986, “If there were not an Israel, we’d have to invent one.”
Oh, also my post was tongue in cheek as when i logged back in it was at 88 comments, 14 new
This has not been my experience at all. I think this community is pretty great at citicising Israel while still calling out when the criticism starts to veer into the conspiracy brained shit.
I’ve been banned from the news comm for antisemitism, for saying Israeli society is pure evil and jokingly saying USA is cucked by Israel, which isn’t correct but is a far cry from playing into ‘antisemitic tropes’.
Sure, I’m aware of and also sensitive to those tropes, too. Israel is the US’s rabid dog, but it’s also a more complicated and circular relationship than that. Israel takes orders from the CIA and State dept., but also bribes lower level politics through lobbies. Israel is a client state, but they also see themselves as superior to the US… and everyone else on earth. It’s what you get with ethno-supremacy. Israeli media shows a lot of contempt for the US and “the west”. The media is owned by the bourgeois, but the big money spigot is the black hole of US defense spending, which connects media with US DOD, CIA, FBI, all branches of the US military, MI6, Mosad, etc. All the narrative management from empire media propaganda originates from the highest level of the state, which means the freak coalition of “intelligence” groups, which does include Mosad because that’s the level of cooperation the US has with the Zionist entity.
This has not been my experience at all. I think this community is pretty great at citicising Israel while still calling out when the criticism starts to veer into the conspiracy brained shit.
No absolutely not. I’m well aware of the power of the Israeli lobbying groups and Israels genocide of Palestinians, there was a few too many sus conspiracy takes for my liking. “
jewsIsrael control the media” being one the ones that stood out the most. The bourgeoisie control the media, and maintaining US and western hegemony is their primary goal. Israel is just a tool to project US/western influence in the middle east. As Joe Biden said in 1986, “If there were not an Israel, we’d have to invent one.”Oh, also my post was tongue in cheek as when i logged back in it was at 88 comments, 14 new
I’ve been banned from the news comm for antisemitism, for saying Israeli society is pure evil and jokingly saying USA is cucked by Israel, which isn’t correct but is a far cry from playing into ‘antisemitic tropes’.
Sure, I’m aware of and also sensitive to those tropes, too. Israel is the US’s rabid dog, but it’s also a more complicated and circular relationship than that. Israel takes orders from the CIA and State dept., but also bribes lower level politics through lobbies. Israel is a client state, but they also see themselves as superior to the US… and everyone else on earth. It’s what you get with ethno-supremacy. Israeli media shows a lot of contempt for the US and “the west”. The media is owned by the bourgeois, but the big money spigot is the black hole of US defense spending, which connects media with US DOD, CIA, FBI, all branches of the US military, MI6, Mosad, etc. All the narrative management from empire media propaganda originates from the highest level of the state, which means the freak coalition of “intelligence” groups, which does include Mosad because that’s the level of cooperation the US has with the Zionist entity.