Israel is the attack dog of the empire, not the other way around. “Israelis” have not infiltrated US government or own US media. That’s like saying the military has infiltrated the Pentagon.
this is a super important distinction that i see leftists (especially on twitter) fail to see all the fucking time its embarassing. This video posted is representing the vibes of an american who doesnt understand that its THEMSELVES that are doing all this, and is wrong over and over. Im surprised this shit even got posted here
I don’t like dogwhistles either, but it doesn’t change the fact that Israel and Mosad have extensive lobbying and media groups. It’s vulgar that Israel is able to hide behind those dogwhistles, to some degree.
The zionist project is antisemitic at its core and Israel is absolutely disgusting for encouraging antisemitism and as you say, use it as a shield. I didn’t mean to say that Israel doesn’t lobby and affect US politics but it was the concept of “Israeli infiltration” that bothered me. Israel is an appendage of the US and zionists don’t try to hide or be coy about their wants, they lobby for them out in the open, that’s not infiltration.
I get what your saying. I don’t believe this person is anti-semitic though. She’s not really incorrect, either. So isn’t it just nitpicking the language of someone with no marxist framework?
I’m ride or die on the full liberation and decolonization of Palestine into a single state, and that every single Zionist should face the same judgement that the Nazis got in the USSR. The entire concept of Israel should be cleansed from the land, so the culture and history the occupiers erased, can be restored.
Being called called anti-semitic by stupid Amerikkkan liberals and Zionazis is not new to me. It’s a stupid trick used to assert moral superiority, by people who have no desire to see the slaves set free.
I don’t believe this person is anti-semitic though.
I’m not so sure. I’m not saying she’s Hitler but casual antisemitism is commonplace in the west.
She’s not really incorrect, either.
She is. US media is not owned by Israelis, it is owned and controlled by the American ruling class and it protects their interests.
So isn’t it just nitpicking the language of someone with no marxist framework?
I’m not just nitpicking her words, I’m also disagreeing with her.
I’m ride or die on the full liberation and decolonization of Palestine into a single state, and that every single Zionist should face the same judgement that the Nazis got in the USSR.
The entire concept of Israel should be cleansed from the land, so the culture and history the occupiers erased, can be restored.
Obviously.
Being called called anti-semitic by stupid Amerikkkan liberals and Zionazis is not new to me. It’s a stupid trick used to assert moral superiority, by people who have no desire to see the slaves set free.
I hope you don’t think I’m calling you antisemitic, comrade.
Israel does own a lot of media companies in the US. And due to the intertwined interests of the US and Israel, the media narrative across the full spectrum of US media is 100% crafted by Israel. It’s not unreasonable for someone to make that analysis, and it does not automatically make them Hitler.
I’m really tired of this hand-wringing about anti-semitism in the US. It barely exists at margins. They are not an oppressed people in the US. No one’s in danger for being Jewish in the US. That’s not a thing. Using this fabricated Zionist narrative everywhere is injuring peoples ability to identify a literal ethno-supremacist state in the middle of committing a genocide. Zionism is not Judaism. I think this person makes that distinction well enough. Contact her on social media or something and give her a better vocabulary for the topic that suits you.
I have zero sympathy for the Zionist Entity, so I’m not wasting my energy on that.
Yeah it’s like 60% antisemitic conspiracy theories and 40% actual inhuman shit Israel is doing. This isn’t someone to hold as an example or an ally, this is someone to at the very least call out in their rhetoric
I agree, this is not a disciplined marxist, but the relationship is circular, because there are different levels of state politics. Israel is the US’s rabid attack dog, at the level of the CIA and State Department. But at lower levels of politics, it is not true, and Israel uses extensive lobbying to get other things that it wants. Mosad spies on the US and has stolen nuclear weapon research (PROMIS), lied about it’s operations to the US, etc.
Israel is also ethno-supremacist toward all non-Jewish Israelis, even the US. If you watch Israeli media, they constantly spit on the US and say ‘fuck America’ and ‘we are not the west’. They culturally and dogmatically see themselves as superior to the US.
Israel is the attack dog of the empire, not the other way around. “Israelis” have not infiltrated US government or own US media. That’s like saying the military has infiltrated the Pentagon.
this is a super important distinction that i see leftists (especially on twitter) fail to see all the fucking time its embarassing. This video posted is representing the vibes of an american who doesnt understand that its THEMSELVES that are doing all this, and is wrong over and over. Im surprised this shit even got posted here
The video has anti-semitic dog whistle vibes saying “Israelis own the media”. The video doesn’t feel very leftist to me.
I don’t like dogwhistles either, but it doesn’t change the fact that Israel and Mosad have extensive lobbying and media groups. It’s vulgar that Israel is able to hide behind those dogwhistles, to some degree.
The zionist project is antisemitic at its core and Israel is absolutely disgusting for encouraging antisemitism and as you say, use it as a shield. I didn’t mean to say that Israel doesn’t lobby and affect US politics but it was the concept of “Israeli infiltration” that bothered me. Israel is an appendage of the US and zionists don’t try to hide or be coy about their wants, they lobby for them out in the open, that’s not infiltration.
I get what your saying. I don’t believe this person is anti-semitic though. She’s not really incorrect, either. So isn’t it just nitpicking the language of someone with no marxist framework?
I’m ride or die on the full liberation and decolonization of Palestine into a single state, and that every single Zionist should face the same judgement that the Nazis got in the USSR. The entire concept of Israel should be cleansed from the land, so the culture and history the occupiers erased, can be restored.
Being called called anti-semitic by stupid Amerikkkan liberals and Zionazis is not new to me. It’s a stupid trick used to assert moral superiority, by people who have no desire to see the slaves set free.
I’m not so sure. I’m not saying she’s Hitler but casual antisemitism is commonplace in the west.
She is. US media is not owned by Israelis, it is owned and controlled by the American ruling class and it protects their interests.
I’m not just nitpicking her words, I’m also disagreeing with her.
Obviously.
I hope you don’t think I’m calling you antisemitic, comrade.
Israel does own a lot of media companies in the US. And due to the intertwined interests of the US and Israel, the media narrative across the full spectrum of US media is 100% crafted by Israel. It’s not unreasonable for someone to make that analysis, and it does not automatically make them Hitler.
I’m really tired of this hand-wringing about anti-semitism in the US. It barely exists at margins. They are not an oppressed people in the US. No one’s in danger for being Jewish in the US. That’s not a thing. Using this fabricated Zionist narrative everywhere is injuring peoples ability to identify a literal ethno-supremacist state in the middle of committing a genocide. Zionism is not Judaism. I think this person makes that distinction well enough. Contact her on social media or something and give her a better vocabulary for the topic that suits you.
I have zero sympathy for the Zionist Entity, so I’m not wasting my energy on that.
Yeah it’s like 60% antisemitic conspiracy theories and 40% actual inhuman shit Israel is doing. This isn’t someone to hold as an example or an ally, this is someone to at the very least call out in their rhetoric
The most powerful zionists in amerikkka are kkkristian zionists
I agree, this is not a disciplined marxist, but the relationship is circular, because there are different levels of state politics. Israel is the US’s rabid attack dog, at the level of the CIA and State Department. But at lower levels of politics, it is not true, and Israel uses extensive lobbying to get other things that it wants. Mosad spies on the US and has stolen nuclear weapon research (PROMIS), lied about it’s operations to the US, etc.
Israel is also ethno-supremacist toward all non-Jewish Israelis, even the US. If you watch Israeli media, they constantly spit on the US and say ‘fuck America’ and ‘we are not the west’. They culturally and dogmatically see themselves as superior to the US.
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