• IcyToes@sh.itjust.works
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      2 days ago

      I said a few months ago. I’m pretty sure 24+ months doesn’t fall under the categorisation of “a few”. Iran has been barely touched upon for years, and now the headlines are rolling about how horrible they are now there is a war to justify.

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        2 days ago

        It has been touched upon for years, then fell off the news wagon because of other events.

        The attacks are unjustified, but this narrative of “the media had no problem with Iran” when again, in the past years, executions and state violence carried out by Iran have been reported, is false.

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          2 days ago

          I didn’t say no problem, I said tolerable. You really need to read the dictionary and understand words. You cannot just interpret things how you feel, rather than what the words mean.

          Did you not see how quick policy and media narratives switch. Recently they tried to rehabilitate the Syrian leader, who’s group was allied to American enemies, and all of a sudden, he wasn’t that bad, let’s drop sanctions.

          You have to realise that, what is good and bad, and what the media tells you is good and bad are two different things. You have to critically challenge the narratives you’re fed.

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            2 days ago

            Mate, I don’t rely on mainstream media to tell me what to think about Iran. I have in-laws there. My partner regularly talks to them.

            Iran was always shite and during the protests, the media said as much. When they executed protestors, It got reported upon. There was never a time in which Iran was like anywhere close tolerable. Did UK media not pounce on the Shahed drones to Russia? Come on, mate.

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              1 day ago

              The UK media did not. It was mentioned they were used but with no judgement one way over another. The amount of UK weapons used to execute civilians, to them this is state normal.

              Myanmar are Ethiopia are doing much worse to civilians. Saudi are horrific for rights. Those countries are barely mentioned. It’s not about atrocities. It’s about Western foreign policy.

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                1 day ago

                Well fuck UK media then, lol.

                Maybe I misunderstood you. I’ve been seeing too many people running defense for Iran these days, and by running defense I don’t mean justifying Iranian retaliation (totally justified to strike back if you’re attacked) but rather defending the Iranian government retroactively.

                Both Myanmar and Ethiopia are in active states of civil war. By the very nature of civil war they are doing much worse to their citizens. Iran hasn’t been in a civil war, yet it’s still brutalizing its citizens. Even more than the Saudis.

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                  19 hours ago

                  I ain’t defending Iran, they ain’t good guys. They just got attacked by worse guys. Probably as a distraction from the ethnic cleansing going on in Gaza.

                  My personal stance is all war is bad, and I will call out aggressors, because it’s always civilians that bear the brunt of it. Nothing good ever comes from it, and it’ll just harden people and if any bad folk are killed, they’re inevitably replaced with worse.