It is the same.
Big communities suck.
Small communities are great if you are part of the in crowd, if not it sucks.
Mods suck.
Admins really suck.
The content is the same, just a day behind.
It is the same.
Yet we scroll and enjoy it.
Lemmy’s far less toxic than Reddit and actually does something about bigots/hateful people too
also you don’t get banned just for saying Luigi lol
You get banned for random views though. In particular lemmy.world is heavy on the censorship.
If lemmy gets more popular then corporate influenced mods will appear.
The benefit of lemmy being that instances can and do block communities that don’t fit their vibe. So once lemmy gets big enough that quality starts taking a hit, and corpos smell blood in the water, other instances can just fork off. It’s already kind of like that too. Whereas with reddit, you can’t tell what sub a person originally signed up for, sure you can go through history but with lemmy you can see what instance a person belongs to, which can give you a slight idea of the ideals that person might hold. Some instances may, for better or worse, have certain reputations.
Plus with being able to see a users mod history and whatnot. Lemmy has a lot more to offer and its still growing. it’ll likely split over time but basically be the same. It is very different from reddit though, more like if forums and twitter had a baby.
That’s why I switched from .world. Being the biggest target makes them more averse to offending corporations.
Here I am , fuck Reddit
Belly full of ramen, couldn’t give a fuck about Reddit
I like you
I joined, hoping that it is way less censored than reddit. Is that the case? Nowadays you can’t say shit in the “social platforms” if it hurts someone. I want to be able to say what In think and read what others have to say even if it hurts my feelings / views.
I want to be able to say what In think and read what others have to say even if it hurts my feelings / views.
I promise you, after two days moderating an actual large discussion forum, you will implement sweeping rules about who can say what about who. The only places people enjoy chatting anymore are places that are moderated.
We can complain about youtube and facebook taking down messages critical of power or corporations, but places like Lemmy are managed by people. It’s not censorship, it’s going into someone’s house and abiding by their rules. It’s a whole other topic if what you want to read/say is popular enough that you can find someone’s “house” that centers around that topic and is also large enough to have meaningful interactions.
And if you’re looking for debate, that shit is dead.
The fact that every community is now insular and bubbled echo-chambers is a result of human tendencies, we gave people total freedom on the internet and instead of using it to learn more and include more people in more conversations, our instincts turned the place into a curdled honeycomb of walled-off communities which were ripe for the plucking by corporate interests.
That’s very unfortunate. I deleted my Facebook account a decade ago because it was flooding me with superficial stuff from people that i didn’t care about. I stopped using Twitter as soon as Musk bought it, it was shit before that too. Deleted Reddit a couple of days ago because it is impossible to say anything that the moderators disapprove of. Maybe lemmy will be the next thing to delete
I think a big problem is we aren’t really sure what we’re looking for in social media. We see things that give us satisfying dopamine boosts and want more of it, but also feel the hollowness of it. It’s exactly like eating processed carbs when you’re starving. You end up addicted with cravings for more even as the stuff you’re consuming makes you sick.
I was there for the start of it all, I’ve seen the space evolve over the decades. I was out in the pioneering days championing free discussion and moderating huge communities. I love reading someone debating an idiot more than anyone arguably, I get the same sense of satisfaction seeing groups connect and share great ideas and jokes.
But I also know the pleasure gained from that kind of community is as contextual as it is fleeting. We are not the same people we were when we first read some chain-post replying in stupid memes until it got so absurd we’re laughing so hard we can’t breath and we’re waking up our housemates. We’re just not “that people” anymore. Even the younger people now are living in a different time, we are so desensitized to imagery and text on a screen that it won’t ever have the same impact on us, but it doesn’t stop us from looking everywhere for a hit of the ol’ drug.
I want to murder-death-kill someone every time I see/hear “unalive”.
You would have been banned on Reddit for inciting violence… wish i was kidding. Kudos
From what I’ve experienced, it feels toxic in a bizarre liberal, Linux-nerd white knight kindof way. Which I think almost wraps back around to not being toxic at all and just feeling friendly in a passive aggressive way? Like going to a computer convention held on a hot, sunny beach. Sure, every here mostly agrees and likes the same geeky stuff but we can easily be too cranky about it, one way or another. Lemmy seems way more likely to engage in real conversation in comments and not just one-line jokes than Reddit. People seem more passionate about their hobbies or viewpoints. More likely to help if asked directly and detailed in response. It’s a cool place!
Their filthy neckbeard echo chamber
vs
our glorious neckbeard echo chamber
Classic liberal or social liberal ? (=american or european ?)
Fairly different hivemind here, I think. Still annoying at times but for different reasons. Individuals seem more likely to engage on a topic though. Maybe without instantly thinking you’re their enemy.
It took me a bit to understand this. I was so used to expecting negativity that i thought non-negative comments were being sarcastic.
“hivemind” is such a stupid bullshit concept. the only people who use it just don’t like being disagreed with. if you use the term “hivemind” you might as well be a reddit conservative
I don’t think hivemind is a bullshit concept. It’s another word for gregarian behavior. The observed dominance of a single point of view, amplified by the underlying system of upvotes that brings a visibility bias to already popular points of view.
Isn’t that what we call the hivemind ?
Congrats on being the exception to the latter part of my comment.
Congrats on being an exception to the penulatimate part of your comment then? My point is that “hivemind” is already a thought-terminating cliche. If you’re using it while seeking in-depth conversation, what do you expect to get? Hence me saying you “might as well be” such as such – which is very different from treating you like an enemy. Seems like you gave a bit of that hostility back though! And why? Because this conversation revolves around a thought-terminating cliche like “hivemind”.
I’ve been trying to figure out if there are fewer bots here. I think there are. If there’s any substantive difference between the two that’s it.
And that is the only thing that matters. This comment won the prize! ❤️✨
The difference is the type of people who are drawn to Lemmy are more technical, computer savvy
People seem nicer here in general.
Lemmy is full of tankies and Linux nerds. It’s a different kind of toxic to what you’d experience over on Reddit.
Lemmy has the 3 day no poop challenge and reddit definitely doesn’t, for one thing
the what?
If you read the user agreement when you signed up, you would know that you’re not supposed to poop for 3 days after signing up. You shouldn’t be posting until you complete the challenge.
This is the lemmy deep lore https://kbin.social/m/asklemmy@lemmy.ml/t/78689/I-need-to-survive-for-3-days-without-pooping-and
the kbin part of the link is making it not work I think but I did see that post when it was making the rounds!
forgot about it but it is great we’re getting some home grown poop knife/swamps of dagobah/jolly rancher/no arms guy/safe stories :D
Systematically the same. Different weight shift (views and interests). Smaller userbase also makes it a bit different, but will become more similar with more users.
Everyone on Lemmy is a fed.
Alright, wrap it up boys, we’ve been made
Similar but distinct. Much further left for one thing.
Also, the average level of tech knowledge here is off the charts. Like I feel like a caveman and in my office I’m the one people to go through for help. Never felt like that on Reddit.
fellow in-between, how can we describe ourselves? the one that everyone comes to for tech support (eg we know how to ctrl+v) but around actual programmers we just stare blankly.
I tried to create an account on db0 and the application wanted to know my favortie OSS creator or something, I just told them i have no idea what that means but I’ll be nice. if we had a word for what we are, I’d have used that!
We also asked for your favourite anarchist or pirate. We’re not just techie :)
In case you didn’t know, OSS stands for Open Source Software, like Firefox, Linux, Lemmy etc ;)
cool thank you! and to be clear, you all were nice enough to approve me anyways. db0 seems like a good spot. rip to lemm.ee
It feels the same as when I originally got on Reddit 15 years ago. Not so much the culture of Reddit 10 years later, and definitely not at all like Reddit is now.
I feel the same way about it. There was a time when reddit, at least large parts of it, was a fairly decent place. That gradually changed, for a lot of different reason, until it became the mess it is now.
Lemmy feels more like the early reddit, before everyone gave up on real interactions and basic civility. We have our own problems, but the decentralized model tends to work in our favor instead of against us. Any given community, or even site, can still go to hell if the participants want it to and the moderators/admins allow it. The difference is that other communities and sites are not automatically dragged down along with it.
I think it also helps that a lot of the folks here have seen things go wrong, on reddit and elsewhere, and want to do better. There is a world of difference between skepticism and cynicism. So far, we seem to be mostly coming down on the right side of that. It’s amazing how much better things are when you treat others as human beings and don’t assume that nothing really matters.
half of the site has been overrun by russian bots, now its israeli, and Palintir bots.
No ads, no tracking, that’s exclusive to Lemmy and I would like it for that alone.
People (aka, in Reddit language, ‘content’ or ‘the stuff we write but they earn money with’) are the same everywhere, I mean assholes and nice guys are not exclusive to any platform. There are just a lot less of us here than on Reddit. So, there is a lot less noise.
Plus we have decent filtering tools, so we can even have less noise ;)
Lemmy is tiny compared to Reddit and the niche communities I’m interested in are not very active but I don’t care. I will keep posting here and not on Reddit as long as they won’t change what I disagree with (which won’t happen).
