(boy’s love writers, so i guess more yaoi then slash) admit i didn’t read the whole article because it seems ridiculous and western reporting on China is like 90% fabrications. someone educate me on whatever this is. is it conservative local governments doing local government shit?

my partner loves this shit especially from China and i don’t want to inform her about some made up BS designed to radicalize the slash and yaoi community against the CPC

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    Radio Free Asia reported that

    lmao

    If this is even actually happening, I suspect it has more to do with China’s pornography laws (which amount to a blanket ban on creating any such work) than homophobia.

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      Article does indeed say

      China last updated its laws on “digitally obscene” content in 2010.
      Those regulations said the “production, reproduction, publication, trafficking, dissemination” of any obscene works that generate more than 5,000 clicks online, or that make profits of more than 5,000 yuan ($1,072), should be treated as a crime.

      It’s not immediately clear from the article if the works in question are 18+ or are just treated as obscene for being gay.

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      Not to affirm what the article says – I’m not in the right mental space to investigate and I don’t want to speak without investigation – but the article does not try to pretend that the blanket ban doesn’t exist. Would it be the first time in history when extra scrutiny is applied to anything that has to do with queer people?

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          Now that’s just cope. Understanding that Radio Free InsertYourRegion doesn’t care about queer people and abuses queer stories to destabilise/dehumanise whoever they are ordered to is one thing, saying that queerphobia doesn’t exist because they reported on it is another. Radio Free Europe reported on gay purges in Chechnya, did they not happpen?

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            Having only the information that the US government said it is happening we can safely assume it didn’t. They probably accidentally report true things sometimes but that would be an outlier if so.

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              Oh, well, I guess if you’ve never talked to a single queer person from Russia or Chechnya you can safely assume anything you would like to be true. And this attitude is exactly why I made my initial comment too.

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                I’ll doubble down. I have no doubt a thing like that has happened. However I would bet money that the RFA reporting on that incident is meaningfully different enough as to make any attempt at analyzing meaning from it misleading and useless.

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                  I’m struggling to understand your second sentence, sorry. Is it that it might have happened but we shouldn’t use RFA as a source for trying to analyse/understand it?

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                    He’s doubting RFA’s reporting, not that China has never committed a human rights violation.

                    If your question is “how can we, the West, analyze and critique this” then the answer is that we cannot based on biased sources

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                    Yes. I am saying the reporting of RFA is specifically removed from context to the extent that if they have a story about a true event reading it will likely lead you to an incorrect conclusion. So in effect any story you see there is fake.

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              I am addressing the general idea that “if Radio Free Something reported on this, it is not true”. I can speak on this because I have experience with this and the example I give towards the end of my comment comes from this experience.

              P.S. To be absolutely clear, I also have experience with queerphobia in China because my transition began while I lived there but this I specifically avoided talking about because I didn’t want to give more credence to the article in the OP.

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        it was only a few months ago that people downloaded redbook, a chinese social media app filled with gay people kissing each other in the frontpage

        i don’t disbelieve that there’s a blanket ban on lgbtq issues in China, in the same sense that anti porn laws are applied selectively in Japan and that a similar social conservative streak dominates in India. but given that the main source for this issue is RFA then i’m gonna err on the side of caution. which is to not assume that there’s a repeat of the chechnya concentration camps situation

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          I lived in China and went to gay clubs lol so concentration camps is definitely not what I had in mind. But then again, there was a time when you could see gay people kissing each other on the front page in Russian social media apps and that time was not so long ago.