(boy’s love writers, so i guess more yaoi then slash) admit i didn’t read the whole article because it seems ridiculous and western reporting on China is like 90% fabrications. someone educate me on whatever this is. is it conservative local governments doing local government shit?

my partner loves this shit especially from China and i don’t want to inform her about some made up BS designed to radicalize the slash and yaoi community against the CPC

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      Now that’s just cope. Understanding that Radio Free InsertYourRegion doesn’t care about queer people and abuses queer stories to destabilise/dehumanise whoever they are ordered to is one thing, saying that queerphobia doesn’t exist because they reported on it is another. Radio Free Europe reported on gay purges in Chechnya, did they not happpen?

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        Having only the information that the US government said it is happening we can safely assume it didn’t. They probably accidentally report true things sometimes but that would be an outlier if so.

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          Oh, well, I guess if you’ve never talked to a single queer person from Russia or Chechnya you can safely assume anything you would like to be true. And this attitude is exactly why I made my initial comment too.

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            I’ll doubble down. I have no doubt a thing like that has happened. However I would bet money that the RFA reporting on that incident is meaningfully different enough as to make any attempt at analyzing meaning from it misleading and useless.

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              I’m struggling to understand your second sentence, sorry. Is it that it might have happened but we shouldn’t use RFA as a source for trying to analyse/understand it?

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                He’s doubting RFA’s reporting, not that China has never committed a human rights violation.

                If your question is “how can we, the West, analyze and critique this” then the answer is that we cannot based on biased sources

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                  I am not “the West”, never been further West than Kaliningrad. I speak Chinese and I can absolutely investigate this further but, as I said in my original comment, I am not mentally prepared right now.

                  All I am trying to say here is this: denying an issue that might actually exist just because Western media reported on it is cope. Yes, Western media will look for the worst all the time and invent shit if they cannot find anything. No, that doesn’t mean that the worst cannot happen. If you don’t know, say that you don’t know.

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                    I’m saying this is impossible to properly dissect with this source. I’m not attacking you lol, I’m trying to explain the disagreement

                    My bad for assuming you’re from “the West” though. It’s a predominantly English speaking forum so that’s the baseline I was working with

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                    Jumping to assume the most nefarious possible motive based on a western propaganda outlet is silly.

                    Nobody has said it is impossible that China has engaged in persecution of LGBTQIA+ people. But we have pointed out assuming this is an example of discrimination, based on a piece of propaganda, from an outlet with the mission to make China look as bad as possible, without anything close to independent corroboration, is foolish.

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                Yes. I am saying the reporting of RFA is specifically removed from context to the extent that if they have a story about a true event reading it will likely lead you to an incorrect conclusion. So in effect any story you see there is fake.

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          I am addressing the general idea that “if Radio Free Something reported on this, it is not true”. I can speak on this because I have experience with this and the example I give towards the end of my comment comes from this experience.

          P.S. To be absolutely clear, I also have experience with queerphobia in China because my transition began while I lived there but this I specifically avoided talking about because I didn’t want to give more credence to the article in the OP.