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These people are TOAST! If the Wanted to ACTUALLY Peacefully Protest they SHOULD have just BROKEN the CAPITOL WINDOWS, BEATEN CAPITOL POLICE, POOPED ON THE CAPITOL WALLS and USED WEAPONS!
Maybe even shit on a desk?
And you’re going to have to ally with those people at some point to stop this fascism.
I don’t see how allying with fascists stops fascism.
I’m sure black people didn’t foresee how standing next to white supremacists was in any way helpful during WWII, or capitalists standing next to communists, or Christians standing next to Muslims, but it was necessary.
It’s basic history. You’re going to have to figure out how to stand with people you don’t like very much, as much as you enjoy the ‘leopards ate your face’ jokes.
Though after the last six months, I imagine Democrats would rather hide in a bunker making ‘leopards ate your face’ jokes or writing sternly-worded letters than actually defeat fascism anyway.
Your analogies make sense if you identify a common enemy. We do not have a common enemy. They are directly supporting the enemy.
If you have anything more concrete to point to to explain your point I’m absolutely stumped.
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Remember! They wouldn’t do this if they didn’t think they had to - this government action comes from a place of weakness, not strength.
They don’t have to, though. There’s a vast army of pigs in California. Way more than enough to handle protests of this scale.
They’re doing this because they want to.
A few protests can be handled by cops, what they’re scared of is a repeat of the BLM uprisings. They’re trying to get ahead of the problem before it spreads to every city.
BLM spread because of police brutality and overreactions. If they are trying to “get ahead of it” by escalating into extreme violence quickly it will only escalate the protests faster.
The way to “get ahead” of BLM and actually subvert it is to do what Joe Biden and the Democrats did. Coopt the peaceful elements of the movement into the corporate, NGO and DNC controlled sphere, alienate and isolate the radicals, give promises of reforms and then never do anything. Every heavy handed thing the Trump administration did only made the protests in 2020 worse for them and empowered the radicals.
I didn’t say it would work, I’m just saying that this is their plan. Make people too afraid to protest.
That’s clearly their plan for the anti-genocide protests, after all.
Well, it implies they don’t think they can trust the vast army of pigs in California to carry out their plans, right?
Some of the cities are sanctuary cities and the mayors have ordered the local PD to stand down and not join ICE/DHS.
Bringing in the National Guard is a way to circumvent that and get ICE reinforcements without having to do the slow legal confrontations to dismantle what’s left of sanctuary cities
They know that as the empire continues to fall and their overreach begins to affect more lives, protests will grow.
The standard pigs can handle what we have now, they can’t handle what is to come.
Whether this move is to pre-empt a coming change of the “big beautiful bill” that guts medicare/medicaid and other social programs, an even broader “sweeping net” policy on immigration, direct hostilities with Iran/China, something else, or all of the above…
They are predicting a broad national outrage over something.
No it comes from long experience of knowing they will get away with it.
Then why didn’t they do it before? Or sooner?
There’s a reason they delayed doing this.
Because they’ve been slowly sounding out how much they could get away with for a long time: pushing the envelope a little bit further, seeing what the response is, and then pushing it some more then they see they can get away with it.
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God damn it, its not about controlling protests. Its about squashing resistance. They know that in LA county the cops are not going to help them detain people. They want to send people who DONT live there and have NO connection to the people and the place. So they are INDIFFERENT and follow orders. They are going to make an example of LA so no other city gets inspired by LAs resistance.
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that’s to be expected from the liar and chief
Guys, guys, did you know THERE’S A DANG CHEETO! IN THE WHITE HOUSE!
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Shitlib instance checks out, can’t wait to never see a lemm.ee poster again
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They need to do this to maintain authority and control. I don’t mean they need to do this for public safety or anything.
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inciting a civil war isn’t what a government that is in control tries to do
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…for reasons that don’t bear explaining, apparently
Ok liberal
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And? Liberal goldfish mind can’t remember all the nonviolent protests crushed in just the last couple years alone?
Making this out to be “Lil Donnie’s personal revenge against LA and California, and I’ll bet it’s just the start” is why im calling you a lib. Like you think idf trump dies today that’s it? You people are out of your fucking minds when i see you say shit like it’s “about” “making him king” like jfc
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And then what? Did they immediately follow it up with a threat, in true cop fashion? They did? Nice, I feel safe and appreciated already
This is likely a part of the Authoritarian plan, as opposed to a response to loss of control.
It’s not about a loss of control, it’s about maintaining control to prevent a loss of control. They don’t want another BLM summer.
I still think that they have been looking for an excuse, in order to change the paradigm in a fundamental way.
OoooooooooK. So, who wants to start a betting pool on which day this week we get martial law? Price is Right rules?
Imma say Tuesday.
This is basically a declaration of it.
OK, so I’ll put you down for Monday?
Do you happen to be open on Sundays?
Like, today?
It’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off.
I’ll take Wednesday for the over
I expect that declaration to be on his birthday parade when he gives his night of the long knives speech.
He 100% wants it before his birthday
To me, this looks like yet another sign that the current regime is striving for tyranny. That, in turn, would probably mean civil war, unless US citizens are willing to accept the end of democracy.
At least, that’s how it looks to me, a European. Do you feel the same way?
I mean, it’s pretty obvious that the US government doesn’t care about the law. And then, to top it all off, there’s this ridiculous military parade for Drump’s birthday … only someone with dictator ambitions would do something like that.
Yeah, the LA “riots” where super tame by riot AND LA standards. Like, they didn’t even have to bust out the water cannons. A skateboarder tanked some tear gas and flipped them off. It’s not like a bunch of people stormed the capitol building or something. This is the flimsiest excuse ever for martial law, so I have to assume it’s another step towards tyranny.
Apparently storming the capitol building is cool with this administration though
that’s been done before. maybe next time a different nearby building of a similar color could be chosen.
Yes, it’s frightening.
I think they’re using photos from other protests that make it seem more dramatic too.
To me this has been pretty obvious since they started following the Project 2025 manifesto line by line
Yes, I see it the same way. But it seems that implementation is now imminent, and I fear that resistance will be necessary, because soon it will probably be too late.
I’m from Germany, and the actions of the US government remind me eerily of the rise of the Nazis in my home country back then - almost as if history were repeating itself.
I assure you, we’re thinking the same stuff.
Honestly, it could be seen on the distant horizon as far back as the Bush administration
From the ground, it feels like a lot of Americans are willing to trade their democracy for the illusion of peace.
That’s how it was in 1933, when the Nazis seized power in Germany.
If you choose to go out to help, sharpie the number of a local legal non profit helpline on your arm and leave your phone at home. Bring a sharpie to write the number on others arms. Mask up. Solidarity and safety, my friends.
Remember when libs kept promising us the military would never use violence against the American people? Remember how they said if a tyrant became president the military would refuse orders to harm fellow Americans?
God it would be funny if there wasn’t a literal genocide that needed to be ended first.
"Remember when libs kept promising us the military would never use violence against the American people? "
Was this before or after the Kent State Massacre?
You’re telling me people who join the brown people murder brigade have no scrupules?
That possum comatose thing will stop him for sure! Drumf is finished!
Welcome to the rebellion.
I have friends everywhere?
As American of an act as George Washington murdering Americans protesting a tax on whiskey.
Round two of the "the summer of '69 " is going to be a lot more intense. I genuinely do not envy everyone in the lower 48 right now.
I genuinely do not envy everyone in the lower 48 right now.
You’re gonna sit out the fun?
Would you want to roll the dice on whether or not you get deported by ice for flying down?
The funny consequences about labeling everything as an act of rebellion is that everything suddenly becomes an act of rebellion. The door opens and now we have to deal with rebels everywhere.
ICE cant be everywhere getting everyone because there is a fucking rebellion, so that means there are captured rebels in court, on trail, with jurors … when the rebels start getting found not guilty by their local courts they are no longer rebels … what are they? Revolutionists.
Nah, they just label the jurors rebels and send them to CECOT
We need to do a literal fucking revolution
Hope the libs will finally realize this.
No they’re telling people to be non-violent and to wave the American flag and not the Mexican flag
Yep, figures
Breaking into the capital, causing physical damage, attacking police officers, stealing U.S. government property. That’s defending democracy.
Standing outside a federal detention center where people are being illegally held. That rebellion.
Welcome to trump’s America, peace I’d was, slavery is freedom.
And what’s a riot? Well you see, if a shopping cart is on fire then that’s a riot. If the police show up in riot gear then that’s a riot. If people stand up for their rights then that’s a riot.
If people are in zoot suits, that’s a riot.
Get ready for another Kent State massacre x1000
The irony of the Jan 6 guy doing this lol
Most honest US politician says unlimited force to protect his elevated position is fine, but the tiniest amount of force protesting that position is illegal terrorism.
People peacefully assembling to exercise their Constitutional rights, and the guy who planned, led, and launched an actual Insurrection which obviously attacked hundreds of cops wants to claim THAT’S a rebellion.
