Fun fact: this dude is a “maoist” who like the ACP and is friends with some german nazbols
like dog they don’t need your support they force you to support them at gunpoint and have killed countless millions
The Flag doesn’t represent the Government, it represents the people of our country.
to them, too, then.If this person had been alive in 1940 they’d be making the same argument about the Nazi flag.
The Flag doesn’t represent the Government, it represents the Volk.
The flag doesnt represent the state but the nation
He kinda forgot east germany existed lol
Coming from somewhere that has a very widespread flag culture I kind of get what he is saying but it makes little sense either way. When you’re at a protest against things the German state does, anyone who is not a disingenuous prick who was just going to find something else to cry crocodile tears over anyways understands that the German flag you’re burning does in fact represent the German state and political elite and not all German people.
this is the true flag that represents the German peopleDont insult the flag
no, it represents the government. the american flag doesn’t represent me. fuck that. i dont want to be represented by a hate symbol. neither should germans whose government is aiding israel in a genocide while brutalizing the very citizens the flag supposedly represents for speaking out.
Fun fact: this dude is a “maoist” who like the ACP and is friends with some german nazbols.
I was about to say “what a peculiar world we live in, a maoist that’s against burning flags, German ones at that too!”
But saying he’s a nazi-maoist that breathes the same air as the nazbols, strasserites, and nazis makes perfect sense.
Rural-fascists appropriate Maoist rhetoric about the countryside surrounding the city and so forth. I think it’s all just aesthetics at this point.
Fascist really do love their aesthetics
I guess Germany needed some Patsocs to add into their mix of terrible politics
Germany is quite literally the birthplace of patsocs. They just were called something different
I wonder how many of them even know the names of Lasalle, Bernstein and Kautsky
Not as much as heiddeger, Strasser, or larouche
How are you a bloody leftist then? The OG Soviets knew they are against the current Russian regime, so that’s why the Soviet union had a whole new flag and renamed cities: hence Leningrad and Stalingrad.
no Germany as a whole is bad actually
Funny that they are talking about „larping“, whilst being an apparent member of the „Arbeiterbund“. The organization, that’s stuck in 1920 with all of their actions and that wants to rebuild the KPD, even though we have a literal successor party to the KPD with the DKP already. The Arbeiterbund is known to have some „interesting“ view points.
The only way for the national flag - the emblem of the state - to belong to the people is if the government of that nation also actually belongs to the people.
Which in a liberal democracy it does not and the state acts according to the whim of capital.
Fact: the flag is being worn by the cops who serve the government that serves international capitalism. Who, in all practical sense of ownership, does the flag belong to?
Getting huffed about somebody burning your country’s flag is like getting mad at someone for destroying a copy of your wife’s boyfriend’s wristwatch.
Personally I’d wait until the jack booted thugs of authority are no longer festooning themselves with a symbol before debating whether it’s vulgar to symbolically trash the symbol of said reactionary goons.
Oh no… anyway
Quotes you would hear if twitter existed in the 1940s.
I wish no harm upon the German government. My real enemy is the German people
Look dude you can CHOOSE to identify with the flag, but it doesn’t definitionally represent you or the population. I don’t identify with “my” flag, because it’s the flag of a white supremacist, settler colonial state. I’m not offended by anyone burning it. If I lived in a country whose ideals I shared I might be bothered, because someone is violently rejecting those things I personally feel are good. You acknowledge the German state is complicit in ongoing genocide, so… Why do you feel this affiliation with it? Do you think genocide is good? If not, why not reject the flag and the things it stands for?
Just hate how people feel no need to interrogate their affiliations, y’know? I was a pretty hardcore “Labor party” liberal in my younger years, visited china during that time and was really morally conflicted about it, so coming to a new understanding where I recognise that in fact china is about as good as a state of that size can be in the current world order - especially as someone from Australia, which is both a settler colonial and imperial core nation - took some work. But it’s so worth it, and once you start seeing the cracks how can you not ask questions?
Death to Deutschland! :germany-cool:
just because my country committed the greatest atrocity known to man and is currently assisting in committing the second greatest atrocity, doesn’t mean it’s bad
Greatest *publicly recognized atrocity known to man.
The crimes of colonialism are just as brutal and have endured over a far greater period of time. The only difference is that the perpetrators of these crimes are on the “winning” side of their conflicts and plans of domination and therefore still have influence over the narrative with regards to how that history is remembered.
The only difference between people like Hitler and Andrew Jackson is that Andrew Jackson is still memorialized and printed on US currency.
