• ObamaSama [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    4 days ago

    I’ve gone on long diatribes about this before but what these types of people mean when they say “political” is anything that challenges the status quo in even the most minute way. We already live in a facist militarized society so a hyperbolic parody of that just speaks to them as normal and the way things should be (i.e. not political). Also I don’t play the game so I’m really hoping “bug divers” is a reference to something in a game and unrelated to something else i saw Chinese players defending a certain city

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      The two genders: men and “”“political.”“”"

      The two races: white and “”“political.”“”"

      The two orientations: straight and “”“political.”“”"

      Their dogwhistles no longer work, but that’s not going to stop them from trying.

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      Exactly. All art and media is political. No exceptions. The degree to which you consider a piece of media/art ‘Apolitical’ is the degree to which it either reinforces or at least does not challenge the politics you consider to be ‘normal’.

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        4 days ago

        What is the politics of Pac-Man?

        Not trying to pull a gotcha. I think this question is a legitimately fascinating test of the idea that all art is political (which I agree with).

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          What is the politics of Pac-Man?

          Just as a surface read: something about strength through consumption or nourishment to overcome obstacles and enemies. Also: ghosts are bad.

          I don’t think it’s a gotcha at all, but rather an important additional point that just because all art/media is inherently political does not also automatically mean all art/media is inherently deep or complex. The saying is less the idea that all art/media has secret political messaging and more an observation that because all art/media has human voices and creativity behind it it objectively means that it has their own views and biases baked into it.

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            The politics of pac man are more baked into the operation of the cabinets and the way the game was written to kinda fuck you over and take your money after a few rounds.

            That and the bugs that exist in the original code due to rushed delivery times and failure of a contractor to deliver needed board components.

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          Would Pac-Man be considered art? In its day it would have been a technological achievement, but was it created to be art or to extract money from players? If the latter, then that’s its politics. If it was made with the intention of being art, then maybe it has to do with unlimited consumption? Not sure.

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      Bug divers are just people who want to play missions against bugs(I forget what they’re actually called) instead of pursuing the overarching community goal.

      Sometimes when goals get missed and people don’t get the reward they wanted for it they decide the problem was other people playing for fun instead of pursuing a goal they didn’t care about for someone else’s benefit

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      The game has 3 enemies factions, bugs, squids and bots, there is a light rivalry here where one faction will get the spotlight. Bug divers are seen as the most casual group and do not respond to events for the other fronts.

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    In regard to HD2, it’s hilarious that the “not political” crowd on the one hand makes this argument that they don’t like “current political issues” in video games/ media and on the other hand are currently going on racist Sinophobic tirades on social media about Chinese players holding the equivalent of Shanghai in-game atm better than any other Mega city on Super Earth because “they’re brainwashed CCP propagandists who don’t think like us superior free thinking whites”.