finkelstein-lambaste Mr. Whatchamacallit

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      It’s Chinese for ‘IP checks out’, i.e. you’re from a .uk instance, and one with a poor reputation for political literacy. But, to your credit, at least you’re seemingly hoping to learn. I hope that similarly to how you were able stop being an ‘anti-liberal’* transphobe from watching debates, you’ll continue to mature and watch and read from sources wider than online debate streamers, like, actually reading scholarly writing other. You’ll quickly come to realise how out-of-depth Destiny is.

      • we have different understandings of this phrase, but you ain’t ready for that yet
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          Lmao I have no idea why people are seriously engaging this simpleton, he’s either beyond stupid or playing like it (distinction without a difference)

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          Honestly if you want to learn more on the subject, debates are not a good way. It may seem engaging but on a topic with extensive history and sensitivity such as this these its best to seek other means. Especially when it involves that sex pest destiny

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            I agree kind of :) They’re absolutely not a replacement for actual research, but I think videos like these can inspire interesting questions which encourage further reading. Most people as well probably aren’t willing to critically and factually research a given subject, so well structured and fact based debates I think could be helpful for helping inform a wider audience maybe

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              Tbh very rarely are debates you find on youtube well structured and really fact based. A lot of times its more about arguing semantics or finding logical traps in the others rhethoric more so than spreading knowledge on the subject. And very rarely does it change minds. Maybe it did for you but believe me when I say that is an exception. Generally vast majority of the audience just comes to affirm their believes through a vehicle or a mouthpiece. Its unfortunate but it is what it is.

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          UI didn’t say anything against your educational background, I was explaining what IP正确 meant. Also like, i only half wrote that sentence it shoulda been something like ‘and other materials on the subject’ bit i was making toast and didn’t proofread. I guess you’re right that the debate wasn’t enlightening, I found it a waste of time too, so I’m wondering why you’re saying destiny held his own when you’re capable of seeing that he wasn’t.

          You ain’t ready for that yet

          Because this instance is anti-liberal, but we use the term differently from how you used it. So if I said “we’re also actually anti-liberal” without further context then 99.99% certain you’ll say we’re right-wingers and dismiss us out-of-hand. I say this as a former ‘liberal’ myself. We don’t use liberal as shorthand for ‘democrat’, we understand it in the lockian sense

          that people have rights, such as the right to life, liberty, and property, that have a foundation independent of the laws of any particular society. Stanford encyclopaedia on John locke

          Particularly around the modern capitalist state and defence of private property. On this, both ‘sides’ of politics agree and are in essence liberals.

          We are very prickly, yes. But this thread is relatively tame.

          Edit: rip bozo

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      Destiny is a little openly genocide loving freak and only deserved to be mocked and ridiculed by an expert. Norm couldn’t do much more than make fun of him for trying to defend a genocide using Wikipedia, while the real complexities were gone over with the Zionist scholar destiny brought with him.

      Only an anglo could find a gamer defending a genocide “awesome”

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        Hey you’re being kind of mean towards me. I haven’t said anything about the conflict in this entire thread. I don’t think I even said anything about Destiny being correct. Do you think I’m in favour of Destiny’s arguments because I think he was the better debater?

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          I am being mean, because there is no neutrality on a moving train. The debate was, essentially, about whether Israel’s genocide against the Palestinians was justified, and destiny was defending for the justness of the side committing a genocide.

          This isn’t a hypothetical, it’s not funny, whenever people ask themselves what they would have done during the Holocaust it’s exactly what they’re doing now; because we’re seeing a mass campaign of ethnic cleansing of the Gaza strip.

          I think even treating the debate in a supposedly neutral way is to take the side of those committing an industrial scale ethnic cleansing with the assistance of drones, AI, and other modern technologies with the financial backing of the US. I’ve seen too many dismembered children to be nice about this over the internet.

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          Do you think destiny is wrong on genocide and the apartheid state of Israel? You spent this entire thread caping for him, so of course people will assume you’re a D rider