• ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works
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    19 days ago

    That’s not correct. There were 15% more homicides in 2024 than in 2015 but the homicide rate went down since the peak of the 2020 crime wave.

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      19 days ago

      The data showed on that image contradicts this, it says “percentage change in homicides and police killings since 2015”. This is very clear language, “since 2015, this is the percentage change in homicides and police killings”, not “difference between homicides and police killings in this year to 2015”.

      I’m talking about the original chart, not this chart specifically, the language is implying different things, probably showing things that are not real, based on the text that was given.

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        19 days ago

        Percent changed compared to 2015 would be better, but choosing a graph like this makes no sense if it would have been change yoy and also if that were the case then starting at 0% makes no sense.

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          19 days ago

          I agree.

          The vague wording is bad, I think they should just use the absolute values and another one with the percentages, that would make it a lot clearer.

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      19 days ago

      Murder rate

      a quantity, amount, or degree of something measured per unit of something else

      - Merriam-Webster (emphasis mine)

      Both police killings and murders are increasing, but police murders are increasing faster year over year than homicides are increasing.

      Regardless of the administration, the US is increasingly a police state controlled by an oligarchy.

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        19 days ago

        The graph you are responding to clearly shows that murders are decreasing. The graph in OP also indicates this.

        Your last point is only partially correct - the police state does grow every year, but the rate of increase is absolutely dependent on the administration. The Wars on minorities “Drugs and Terror” were each started under Republicans, and the current one is actively and intentionally making the police state much worse.

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        19 days ago

        the US is increasingly a police state controlled by an oligarchy.

        alwayshasbeen.jpeg

        but the gloves are coming off though for sure

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      19 days ago

      Seems like the same 2020 high happened in Sweden, UK, Netherlands, … (1). Perhaps covid (and lockdown) related?