overrated as hell
When I first saw Star Wars in the theater in 1977, my mind was reeling with questions afterwards.
It wasn’t lost on me that we entered the story in the middle, and I was hungry for backstory, and one of the things I wondered about was the events that allowed the Rebels to get the plans for the Death Star. I thought it would make a great movie, but then I remembered that everybody involved died while stealing it, and a movie where all the heroes die is never going to be made.
So I was shocked decades later, when Rogue One was released to tell that story after all.
The scene where Jyn tells Cassian that he’s basically a stormtrooper because he’s willing to kill her father for the rebellion frames her as correct and it’s such 2016 lib shit that it actually damages the ‘evergreen’ or ‘timeless’ quality you want in a fantasy movie
Andor makes her look like an idiot so good job Andor
Is Jyn in Andor?
Nope
Nope.
Watch season one of Andor.
Watch season two of Andor.
Watch Rogue One. (this is when you realize Cassian Andor is the real star)
Watch Star Wars A New Hope.
Proceed to ignore all other Star Wars.
Sorry I still need my episode 3. If for nothing else than the memes and music alone
I’ve seen all but Andor season two.
Its also an last minute addition by gilroy. OG mads mickelsson dies because draven sends in bombers because he believes the mission has failed.
I actually kinda like Rogue One but the main thing I remember about the movie is that when they properly introduce the blind monk character, Chirrut Îmwe, it’s in the middle of a fight and he shows up to knock out stormtroopers with his walking stick. And at first it’s sort of cool, but then it goes on forever, and it starts to feel silly, and you can feel the cracks in the choreography because you start to think “surely one of these guys would just shoot him in the back” and then the character is just there and basically doesn’t do or say anything of significance until his death scene. Sort of the problem of the entire movie in microcosm. Lots of interesting ideas for characters that don’t get much to do or say. Even the best fleshed out character, Jyn, feels contradictory and ultimately thinly characterized.
As I always say, the novelization is much better.
The whole knocking Stormtroopers out with melee attacks looked so silly to me. Even if they were canonically wearing the movie set armor that would at least protect them from blunt attacks
Blunf force protection confirmed!
There was this press circuit video where they had a Star Wars quiz for the cast and Diego got a question about something from Rogue One. Adria said something like “you have to know this one” and his response of “that was like 10 years ago” gave me the
“Stardust”
What I turn into when I remember 2016 is almost 10 years ago
Best part of that interview is Denise Gough and Ben Mendelsohn just repeating the word “Kalkite” back to each other in character voices and cracking up.
And Denise’s deadpan, suddenly-in-character “an Imperial starpath” was hilarious.
Rogue one was the last Star warts movie i watched in any capacity. I checked out after that. Made me realize i really don’t give a rip about those movies in any context.
That shit happened to me in 2008. Went from reading the novels as they came out to completely dropping the entire franchise, since then I’ve kinda just observed it from afar.
Maybe it’s because I’m just an outsider to it now, but good grief there just seems like there’s so much of it. Disney (that’s who owns it right?) is really getting their moneys worth imo. And it all looks like shit, frankly.
My kids aren’t even interested in it, but maybe that speaks to my being out of touch with kids now of days more than my children’s dislike of SW.
I summed up everything that I’d call “good” or better in the Star Wars TV and movie canon a few days ago in another thread and it’s depressing how much of the franchise is slop - but Disney is just carrying the torch, they didn’t start the fire.
Anyway the worthwhile TV and movie bits are: the original trilogy, the clone wars TV movie (the 2D animated one, not the 3D one that I linked), the Mandolorian Season 1, and Andor seasons 1 & 2. Everything else can be skipped.
oh lord that movie is so bad and should’ve gotten the TV show cancelled or substantially reworked
The show ended up being one of the best parts of Star Wars imho, the spinoffs Bad Batch and Tales of the Jedi/Empire/Underworld are all good too
I’ve tried to watch it and I’m sorry to say that it actually sucks. Even the “good episodes” that people have specifically recommended to me suck. It’s written for babies and the animation looks like garbage.
Bad Batch shit the bed. They wanted to do a legends style clone rebellion but then cut it short. I can’t believe battlefront handled the kamino rebellion much better.
nah spider maul and “the family” are irredeemable.
2nd, I still think of Umbara from time to time
All my homies hate Pong Krell
It got the show green lit. The movie was the pilot if I recall
yeah it was the pilot and it was dogshit. dunno how the series was allowed to proceed.
The series from what I saw was as well. I tried like 10 episodes or so like 10 years ago cause every nerd ever said it made the prequels not suck. The show is trash and holy shit anakin and ashoka are such a 2000s 19 year old dating a 15 year old vibe
The first season is pretty rough. There’s some solid episodes in it, but at the end of the day it’s still a show for 10 year olds in a slop franchise lol.
I’ve been struggling with whether to rewatch this one. The only time I saw it I got so zoinked on over the counter dissociatives that I basically lived inside the movie for most of the middle of it.
It was so awe-inspiring and terrifying that I don’t want to paper over that experience with a normal watch, but I also don’t remember good chunks of it.
If you were wowed by it the first time, probably leave it as a memory. I’d you thought it was pretty good, you’re fine to rewatch. I just did and can report that it’s firmly pretty good
Star Wars is probably the only franchise that gets a total pass from me for everything. I’ve been watching it my entire life, and I’m down with whatever happens. I suppose it could get ridiculous enough that it would ruin it for me, but so far I’ve accepted everything that’s come along, good or bad. It’s Star Wars, so for me, everything is good by default.
It’s a super mediocre movie, so you’re probably best wirh the memory
The last act, where it’s just fighting and stealing the plans, holds up. The rest drags it down.
There is some cool stuff but on the whole it’s nothing special. Better than the other Disney movies and the prequels but that’s cause it’s just okay
Sweet. People like to rave about it but I trust the Hexbear party line more.
It was the best Disney star wars product. So mid stands out amongst bad. Also the trailers was basically all scenes cut from the movie.
Still the 4th best star wars movie but that isn’t really saying much.
The last time I watched alien was on dissos and it was so unfathomably good I’ve always been afraid to go back and watch it again because I’m sure I’m going to be a little disappointed.
Also Rebel One is mid
Alien is peak still.
Alien is pretty good
Astonishingly odd move to be honest to not have originally built up the characters with the Andor series before doing the events that happened there. Harder to care for characters you just meet in an already big universe.
tbf, the whole media landscape was way different back when Rogue One came out. it wouldn’t be for another 5+ years that cinematic universes connecting tens of movies and multiple tv series would be the norm. Mandalorian was the first live action star wars, and it only started in 2019
Marvel was still in his infancy with their breakthrough of the bazillion tie-in movies and media, where to understand that movie you need to watch 20 others first.
They’d already released 15 of the MCU films by that point
https://watch30rockonline.cc/ is one of my favorite website, I like just clicking random episode and watch 30 rock out of context. However, whenever S1 episode came out and it says “18 years ago” it feels depressing
And its still a piece of shit
The trailer vs the end product is truly something. They almost cut all of the expansive beach battle they spend months filming in the maladives.
star wars is trash for children and i don’t respect anyone who’s a fan of it
