I feel like the people doing traffic enforcement should be different than the police. Like, they shouldn’t have guns and authority to search and murder. Just, like, a radar gun. and the authority to issue tickets and direct traffic.
It’s a thought, but unfortunately any member of an ‘authority’ is going to be in harm’s way with a real criminal. Remember that (as an example) the son of sam and the oklahoma city bomber were both caught because of ticketing, and that a great many felons (like, actual felons that we care about, not the ‘felons’ of trump gang ™ that have the wrong skin color) are encountered on traffic stops. I wouldn’t want kindly and vulnerable meter maids to be expected to interact with people who have everything to lose, or hostile sovereign citizen types.
If a traffic enforcement type were to work, they’d have to have the authority to detain, and that inevitably means conflict with someone. I’d rather it not be with meter maid sally, and rather with officer dickstain, where I’m happy if either or both party gets hurt.
I don’t think the average person is so dangerous that it justifies having driving infractions be handled with firearms by default.
I don’t think you even need to force a stop. If they don’t stop when asked to pull over, you have the license plate. That’s registered. Send them a ticket or court summons. If they refuse to come to court, then you can have some muscular folks go resolve the issue.
Granted, I’m just spitballing. But I don’t think the current system works at all.
I agree with you. ACAB. In the future I want, I’m sure there will be a need for some form of law enforcement, but right now it’s beyond fucked.
I just want to acknowledge that while the system needs to be torn down, I also don’t think we can implement a ‘nice face’ traffic enforcement without consequences right now. I don’t know. I’m just some idiot spitballing as well. Hopefully iron sharpens iron.
This is the biggest point. There are countless bodycam footage available of some crazy shit going down at traffic stops. Someone with an active warrant is going to resist being IDd. Someone high on cocaine in a stolen car may not act rationally.
I feel like the people doing traffic enforcement should be different than the police. Like, they shouldn’t have guns and authority to search and murder. Just, like, a radar gun. and the authority to issue tickets and direct traffic.
It’s a thought, but unfortunately any member of an ‘authority’ is going to be in harm’s way with a real criminal. Remember that (as an example) the son of sam and the oklahoma city bomber were both caught because of ticketing, and that a great many felons (like, actual felons that we care about, not the ‘felons’ of trump gang ™ that have the wrong skin color) are encountered on traffic stops. I wouldn’t want kindly and vulnerable meter maids to be expected to interact with people who have everything to lose, or hostile sovereign citizen types.
If a traffic enforcement type were to work, they’d have to have the authority to detain, and that inevitably means conflict with someone. I’d rather it not be with meter maid sally, and rather with officer dickstain, where I’m happy if either or both party gets hurt.
I don’t think the average person is so dangerous that it justifies having driving infractions be handled with firearms by default.
I don’t think you even need to force a stop. If they don’t stop when asked to pull over, you have the license plate. That’s registered. Send them a ticket or court summons. If they refuse to come to court, then you can have some muscular folks go resolve the issue.
Granted, I’m just spitballing. But I don’t think the current system works at all.
I agree with you. ACAB. In the future I want, I’m sure there will be a need for some form of law enforcement, but right now it’s beyond fucked.
I just want to acknowledge that while the system needs to be torn down, I also don’t think we can implement a ‘nice face’ traffic enforcement without consequences right now. I don’t know. I’m just some idiot spitballing as well. Hopefully iron sharpens iron.
This is the biggest point. There are countless bodycam footage available of some crazy shit going down at traffic stops. Someone with an active warrant is going to resist being IDd. Someone high on cocaine in a stolen car may not act rationally.