My husband says yay, I say nay. What are your thoughts?
Depends on your rationale.
If it’s to avoid all animal products no matter what, then it’s not, because it’s an animal product.
If it’s to avoid exploitation of animals, than it is, because it’s given willingly.There are definitely moments when I don’t want to breastfeed, but I still do because I think it’s best for the baby, it’s free, and it requires no washing up of bottle parts. In those moments, I’m not being forced, but I’m not 10000% willing either. Still vegan at those times?
I’m curious where this question is coming from. Why does it matter whether you attach the label “vegan”?
You have free will. Animals giving us milk do not.
I’ve always viewed consent as the dividing line.
If someone freely gives away their breastmilk then it’s vegan. If it’s taken through some kind of exploitation then it’s not, even if someone agreed to be milked. A person who is forced to sell their breast milk to pay rent is not selling a vegan product, for example.
I think the point of veganism is to reduce harm and exploitation. Is the person willingly giving milk in the situation? Are they being exploited in any way related to the milk? If no, then it’s vegan.
The same question could be raised for other human products - like human hair wigs. If the person happily donated the hair, then I’d consider it vegan.
Either you want to breastfeed or you do not and the question ends there and then.
The baby depends solely on you for food, warmth and connection. It’s a biological imperative. You either provide or you don’t.
Debating if a fluid your own body produces to fullfil the needs of another life you - hopefully! - willing and actively created is anything but nonsensical.
Relax. It’s just a thought experiment.
Thought experiments are designed to provoke thoughts, some of which are bound to disagreeable.
It’s a yes or no question. Either it is vegan and why or it is not vegan and why. You gave a third answer for a question that wasn’t asked.
This thread would be removed from https://lemmy.ca/c/veganism
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !veganism@lemmy.ca
Why is that? I’m not vegan but it’s something I’m considering. This is my first attempt to connect with a vegan community. Might be my last 😕
Because it wildly misunderstands the most very basic concepts of what veganism even is. Veganism has nothing to say about human breast milk or the ethical practices concerning it, just like it has nothing to say about bridge building, musical theory, or 1980s late night television.
Post like this are helpful to people who are not vegans and are trying to figure out the absolute basics so that they can even begin to have a conversation. They are not useful to vegans, and in fact they are quite aggravating to a lot of us. You are simply not equipped to “connect with a vegan community” until you have done your basic due dilligence.
!veganism@lemmy.ca is here to cater to vegans, not people who are curious about vegans and want to interrogate them about things that they could much more easily discover from the first paragraph of a Wikipedia article. Differentiating communities is useful.
If you want to keep harming animals, then “vegans were mean to me” will sound like a reasonable justification to do that.
!veganism@lemmy.ca is here to cater to vegans, not people who are curious about vegans and want to interrogate them about things that they could much more easily discover from the first paragraph of a Wikipedia article
Originally, this was this community’s intent too. The rules in the sidebar are willingly shallow about this kind of posts because at some point we decided not to be too strict with submissions, considering that there wasn’t that much activity and the mods were mostly afk . So posts like this are tolerated unless they become an omnis cicrclejerk/backpatting fest
No disrespect. Like I said, differentiation is useful. There’s always going to be a “big tent” community that has to straddle between mainstream culture’s idea of veganism and actual veganism. And it’s probably going to be bigger and more successful than a more curated community. I just want a place to go to escape my throbbing vystopia.
What are your thoughts?
I think the question is banal. Either that you haven’t explained enough context to understand the question.
