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disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world to Broligarchy Watch@lemm.ee · 6 days ago

FBI Agent Goes Public With Russian Intelligence Operation That Hooked Musk And Thiel

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FBI Agent goes public with Russian intelligence operation that hooked Musk and Thiel
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    Love a story with no details or corroborating evidence, based on one anonymous source.

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      For people asking for other sources:

      https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/is-the-fbi-truly-biased-against-trump

      It’s this agent, who was involved in investigating Hunter Biden and Rudy Giuliani. He turned whistleblower after charging that FBI leadership and Bill Barr squashed the investigation into Giuliani.

      His house was raided in 2023: https://www.newsweek.com/fbi-raids-home-trump-whistleblower-johnathan-buma-1843737

      he resigned right as he was arrested in 2025: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/former-agent-who-accused-fbi-of-political-bias-is-charged-with-disclosing-confidential-records

      his court cases pending, he’s writing a book, running for congress

      https://ftw.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2025/05/01/fbi-whistleblower-johnathan-buma-files-to-run-for-congress-in-arizona/83368871007/

      and he did a recent interview with Germany media, where he made the claims about Musk and Thiel that are in the foreign news (not covered much by US media)

      https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/politik/trump-musk-putin-100.html

      This 2023 article claims Thiel was an informant / source for Buma

      https://www.businessinsider.com/peter-thiel-fbi-informant-charles-johnson-johnathan-buma-chs-genius-2023-10

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        Well then that just makes it curious that the linked article cited absolutely no sources when there is evidence available. Even if this story is apparently true I would trust absolutely nothing from that site.

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          Lmfao no sources? I just linked you a variety of articles from various sources outlining a very clear timeline of events. The source is the literal guy investigating the situation, what do you mean no sources? He’s claiming the department he works in isn’t doing their job and he’s claiming someone is a Russian plant. Let’s step back and consider the following;

          • Everything Trump does parrots Russian sentiment from pressure on Ukraine to harassing our allies about tariffs.

          • Trump’s history with the Russian Mafia and Giuliani. Probably don’t know this but Giuliani had a lot of praise for how he handled the Italian Mafia in New York, he swapped them for the Russian mob. You literally see this happen in media too, the Italian Mafia fades away as the bad guy and is replaced by the Russians: see Kickass, John Wick, etc. Reflects the cultural change.

          • Trump’s history as Roy Cohn’s second, alongside Roger Stone who oddly got Bush elected in 2000 with help from the Proto-Proud Boys. Roy Cohn is a character that outlines everything the Republican party embraces today.

          • His consistent relationship with known pedophiles and human trafficking from his weird pageants to his relationship with Epstein and the numerous claims of abuse from many many sources.

          • The Mueller report outlines his entire relationship with Russians with support from the Steele Dossier.

          • This agent himself has clearly been trying to get a message across, he hasn’t been allowed to present his case and has clearly been harassed by the administration.

          Nepotism, cronyism, relationship with folk like Paul Manafort, Maria Butina and Michael Cohen who is Trump’s longtime lawyer and has in court spoken of most of this.

          The fuck more evidence you want? Trump’s nuts in your mouth after he raped a child? A video of him and Putin admitting to everything? Like you people are complete baboons and nobody is buying your shit lmfao c’mon man

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            First of all, I’m not reading all that. Second, I was talking about the article linked by op. That article had no sources. (I’m now explaining this for the second time) If there are plenty of sources, as in the ones YOU linked, I’m questioning why the article that is the subject of this post was written citing absolutely nothing. It was a shitty article devoid of anything resembling journalism.

            I wasn’t coming at you, I was coming at the shitty site with the shitty article linked by op.

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              First of all, I’m not reading all that

              then shut up you opinion is dumb

              To quote a moron

              “I’m not reading all that”

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        So what’s the actual evidence consist of?

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          LoL. The bots don’t like your reasonable expectation.

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            Yup; asking for evidence is treason.

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      So you didn’t believe anything that Snowden said was possible either? This isn’t a conviction. It’s just a lead.

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        Snowden had evidence

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        Julian Assange and Snowden are characters who reveal the inner workings of the deep state. They are nonpartisan and it should reveal how the sausage is made and how you fit in that sausage.

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        It’s not even a lead, it’s an anonymous accusation with no specifics.

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          Sorry. I didn’t realize you meant the agent was anonymous and not the source.

          The agent is Jonathan Buma. His arrest was made public at the time of the initial leak. Now we’re just hearing some more details.

          https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/russian-spies-targeted-elon-musk-using-sex-drugs-ex-fbi-agent-drops-bombshell-glbs-2726462-2025-05-18

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            India today lmao

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              Yeah, but it confirms what that already wanted to believe, so it’s gospel

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            Ah ok, the kyivInsider article didn’t name him so I assumed he was an anonymous.

            Well, he isn’t an anonymous source, but it is still just an uncorroborated accusation with little if any details.

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              Move that goalpost!

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                Fallacy fallacy

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              To your point, the details are coming through unnamed sources in the article. I thought that’s what you were getting at. I’m inclined to believe it’s true, but we’ll have to wait for a formal deposition to know what’s what.

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                I’m inclined to believe it’s true

                Well yes, because it’s playing into conspiracy theories that were already popular when he started making the claims. That’s why I’m dubious about it; he’s very much saying what a lot of people already wanted to hear.

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                  Absolutely fair. However, the reason I’m inclined to believe it is because of its likelihood, not because I want it to be true.

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                    Well that’s just circular reasoning: “I think it’s likely to be true because I think it’s likely to be true”

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      You must still question if Watergate happened, with it being based off an anonymous source and all.

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        Watergate had evidence

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          You might want to check that box. It seems empty.

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            You might want to check your skull. It seems empty.

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              Clever. I like how you said the same exact thing i did. How did that sound to you when you “thought” of it?

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                Insert wanking hand gesture here

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                  I do believe that’s all that’s in your head

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                    “No u”

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      Usual suspects come to Russia’s rescue

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        Thanks for your input, senator McCarthy

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          McCarthy was anticommunist, if you believe that current Russia has anything to do with worker liberation, I cannot help you.

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            K. Not what I meant, and you know it.

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              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

              Current Russia is about as far from communism, socialism or any left-wing agenda as possible. It is a reactionist, authoritarian, pro-tradition anti-progress state run by a wealthy elite. Being against current Russia has literally nothing to do with McCarthyism, other than geography.

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                PSA @BrainInABox@lemmy.ml is a troll

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                  @InternetCitizen2 is a self admitted troll who has started stalking me across all of lemmy lying about me in every thread because he got enraged I said genocide denial is bad.

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                    moron can’t even @ right

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                Ok, still not what I was talking about, as you know.

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                  Then please explain what other association you have with McCarthy? Because the one I perceive as commonly used seems to not be it?

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                    Accusing people of being Russian agents with no evidence as away of silencing disagreement.

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      Yeah wtf is this garbage

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        For people asking for other sources:

        https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/is-the-fbi-truly-biased-against-trump

        It’s this agent, who was involved in investigating Hunter Biden and Rudy Giuliani. He turned whistleblower after charging that FBI leadership and Bill Barr squashed the investigation into Giuliani.

        His house was raided in 2023: https://www.newsweek.com/fbi-raids-home-trump-whistleblower-johnathan-buma-1843737

        he resigned right as he was arrested in 2025: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/former-agent-who-accused-fbi-of-political-bias-is-charged-with-disclosing-confidential-records

        his court cases pending, he’s writing a book, running for congress

        https://ftw.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2025/05/01/fbi-whistleblower-johnathan-buma-files-to-run-for-congress-in-arizona/83368871007/

        and he did a recent interview with Germany media, where he made the claims about Musk and Thiel that are in the foreign news (not covered much by US media)

        https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/politik/trump-musk-putin-100.html

        This 2023 article claims Thiel was an informant / source for Buma

        https://www.businessinsider.com/peter-thiel-fbi-informant-charles-johnson-johnathan-buma-chs-genius-2023-10

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        It’s Qanon for libs

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          Ohhhh sheeeet hahahah totally hammer right on the god damn head.

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            Democrats always end up just being the Republicans of 10 years ago

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        Calm down peanut gallery

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