Normally this should be removed under the “We’re not YPTB” rule, but as this is a new situation I’ll allow this thread to act as a megathread. New posts about this will be removed, so post any new memes here.
Could somebody even explain what’s going on?
The Germans are claiming the laws forces them to censor anti Israeli speech. You cannot say they are Nazis (apparently the Germans patented that) and you cannot call for the end of Israel as a state.
According to them, disolving a nation-state is the same as killing everybody. The goal is to imply that if it wasn’t for Israel the genociders would be the genocidees. It’s a form of denial. “It was self defense”
9 minutes old throwaway account posting a highly distorted version of the actual rules posted 🙄
The spark that set this whole thing off was literally a comparison to the nazis
More dishonest bullshit. The rules literally mention “exiStenReCht” or whatever.
Can I go there and say “Israel doesn’t have the right to exist?”. Please tell me coz I really want to
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On one hand, I get .org’s admins’ reasoning, and don’t disagree with the core of it - no one wants a fucking police visit to their house over a hobby project.
On the other hand, it’s a strong reason for me to not use Feddit.org (separate from Feddit.uk) comms at all, regardless of the comm’s individual position on the ongoing Palestinian genocide.
There’s no law saying they can’t ban the homophobic, genocide denying users they host.
Have you even read the official feddit.org announcement? There is nothing in there that would prevent a serious discussion of the atrocities of the Israeli government. They simply ask to not call for ethnic clensing of an entire group of people or to relativise the holocaust. That is an extremely low bar (which should be common sense) and if that prevents you from participating in feddit.org comms that is really a you problem.
It’s broader than that - it also forbids comparisons of the Israeli government to Nazis. You may say that that’s just an issue of tone that doesn’t prevent serious discussion, and you aren’t wrong - but I have no interest in getting tone policed on a fucking genocide either, regardless of German law.
How exactly can you compare Israel to the historical Nazis without relativising the atrocities of the Nazis including the holocaust?
Remember Godwins law of internet discussions? Thats just a funny way of saying the same thing.
Works both ways. You are trivializing the current genocide, that bares a lot of ressemblance to the Holocaust, including the use of new technology at industrial scale.
In one occasion they bombed 23 houses because some Microsoft IA gave a good enough threshold that some hamas goon might be there ffs.
Germany bombed by grandma and I’m not gonna let a bunch of Germans decide what I can call Nazi or not
I am well aware of that, but that is totally besides the point.
You are being dishonest. They ban call to disolve Israel as a political entity. Saying the Israeli state should be disolved is NOT a call for ethnic clainsing.
Your whole move is to blame the victims by saying if it wasn’t for Israel the palestinians would genocide the jews.
Industrial scale is like, with train carts going to death camps for 4 years
Nice to see that good meaning critics of israels war crimes are being judged by details instead of doing something more useful for your general movement. Surely it hurts you so much that you can’t compare the idf to nazis but still can say how what israel’s doing sucks and is a war crime
You are not good meaning if you argue for the continuation of a genocidal state
Not wanting that already established people who have lived in Israel for their entire life ≠ wanting the continuation of what the idf does
look at all the boers still in south africa. I mean they still have it too good, but this is what an end to an apartheid regime looks like. This but for israelis
And wanting a state to end says nothing about the people. I’m from britanny. I want the French republic to stop existing so we can have self determination. I don’t wanna genocide French people.
And regarding the Israelis, well, the ones who didn’t participate in the genocide and didn’t steal land can stay. There will be an agrary reform needed at some point of course but I’m sure they can rent an appartment in the nearest city.
And wanting a state to end says nothing about the people.
Then don’t be surprised that people understand your ambiguous statements “the wrong way”.
You have a twisted mind if you think abolishing a state is the same as killing people. Your antisemitism is mostly projection isn’t it?
lol 0/10 ragebait not even close
Well then why is the idea of disolving a genocidal state so triggerring for you?
Nobody died when east Germany ceased existing
What? Sentences baby do you speak it
Not wanting that already established people who have lived in Israel for their entire life do what?
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No, they’re not. You are not legally required to act this extreme. This is a personal choice by the instance admins and users.
For
instanceexample there is zero law against not banning those who deny the genocide of Palestinians, but your instance continues to defend them.“This extreme” apparently means now allowing pretty much everything except relativising the holocaust and calling for ethnic cleansing of jews. And no, those things are very much not allowed in Germany.
If you deny any genocide including one of Palestinians that is against Feddit.org instance rules and will likely get you banned.
Please stop spreading completely false information.
Calls for or support of any non-peaceful resistance against Israel are banned.
Stop lying 🙄
When you have no argument, just endlessly scream “NO! NO! YOU CAN’T READ!”
Lying fascist.
None of the genocide deniers from feddit.org banned on YPTB have been banned on feddit.
Please stop spreading completely false information.
Please show actual proof of that. The feddit.org accounts I saw being banned on YPTB were not banned because of actual cases of genocide deniyal. If you can show an actual case I am more than happy to escalate that with the feddit.org admins.
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To paraphrase you: Learn English or use a better translation software as you got the meaning behind that comment totally wrong.
