Feddit post in support of zionism 
Hi.
In the past few days, discontent regarding mod decisions in this community has been brewing, particularly when it comes to comments on Palestine, Israel, and Israeli politics and actions. There are also misunderstandings regarding mod intention and German law. We hope to clear that up with this post.
While the servers of feddit.org are in Austria, most of the mods of this community as well as admins of this server live in Germany. Speaking of, our server admins have also posted a write-up on the same topic.
And with that, let’s go:
In Germany, antisemitism is specifically sanctioned in German criminal law, both for speech and as a motivation for other criminal behavior. In addition, Germany seeks to protect the Jewish state of Israel (the so-called “Reason of State” introduced in 2008) and thus verges toward protecting Zionism as well. Certain criticism of Israel/Israelis is also categorized as “Israel-related antisemitism”.
Since criminal law is involved, enforcement can mean things like police raids and device confiscations. After such police action, it does not really matter if it was appropriate or if cases are dropped or never charged: The damage is done. All told, it’s not that fun.
There is also no point in engaging in discussions about the veracity of statements that could get us into legal trouble. In addition, we believe that you can express most opinions without breaking rules.
Another post about they are totally not Zionazis 
Hello all,
in the last few days there have been some accusations against the moderators of !europe@feddit.org as well as against our admin team of being Nazis or Zionists, mainly because of the way of dealing with criticism of Israel.
We explicitly reject these accusations and will not tolerate such accusations. In particular, people who accuse others in this way without any concrete objective reason are not welcome on feddit.org. This is already covered by our rule of respectful interaction.
First of all, we would like to remind you, that the use of feddit.org must be compliant with the rights and regulations of the DACH region. This is explicitly mentioned in our instance rules, and includes Germany (D), Austria (A) and Switzerland (CH). The infrastructure of feddit.org is maintaind by the Fediverse Foundation, a non-profit association in Austria. Our Admin team, which takes care of the instance wide moderation, organization and supporting infrastructure operations, is based in Germany. Since we primarily target the German speaking coutries, we also try to comply with laws and regulations of Switzerland.
Even if we do not have to actively search for violations of the law, it is necessary to intervene after becoming aware of them. This includes, for example when moderators or admins receive messages about posts or comments, but also when such content is discovered by chance when browsing Lemmy.
In this instance, we fully support the moderators of !europe@feddit.org to potentially remove too much rather than too little in case of legal uncertainties.
One of the triggers for the current debate is this post, which followed the removal of a comment comparing National Socialism with the current situation in Israel, which can be considered a trivialization of National Socialism. Such statements can, among other things, lead to imprisonment. Among other things, the post claimed that the removal had a Zionist motive, an accusation that should always be supported by appropriate evidence and prior to which it should be ruled out that there are alternative explanations.
We will not be removing every comment that goes even remotely in this direction, but we reserve the right to permanently ban users from feddit.org who make unfounded accusations, such as labeling our instance, admins, moderators, or other users as Nazis or Zionists, without substantial supporting arguments. This is especially the case when this is recurring behavior and not an isolated incident.
This includes content such as this post by @Deceptichum@quokk.au, who was banned from our instance shortly before that post due to multiple incitements of violence and terrorism. This person also seems to be the admin of the instance quokk.au, or at least to have good relations to the admin, since we received a censure on Fediseer from quokk.au around the same time, in which we are being accused of being Zionists and Nazis, and @Deceptichum@quokk.au has suggested to defederate quokk.au from us (archive).
If this censure by quokk.au is not withdrawn in a timely manner, we will defederate quokk.au from our side for these unsubstantiated and untrue accusations. quokk.au is a relatively small instance with only a few local users, which tried to build an alternative news community that is not on one of the “big” instances. Unfortunately, this community also seems to be a poor alternative if this is how their admin typically acts.
Its not just you, the nationalists are there and they’re loud. A lot (not most, but a lot) of buy European users are well meaning, but the assholes who champion a “stronger and united Europe” (i.e. united imperialist front lol) can go fuck themselves. Supporting nations that are imperialist and whole heartedly supporting genocides is morally inexcusable.
Id honestly argue European liberals are miles worse than American ones. Their holier than thou, condescending tone and chauvinism is more infuriating than anything. American ones tend to just be self flagellating, while fully bootlicking the European ones.
I’m Arab and tbh this shit sucks. Seeing people on Lemmy supporting the countries that fully ravaged the middle east/global south is so depressing. And they are close minded about it too, always with the excuses and downplaying. It feels like an echo chamber exclusively for westerners, cheering on exploitation :/ you also get heavily downvoted for disagreeing in any way, too. Just a toxic and unwelcoming platform.
Rant over :>
Fully justified rant.
As a USian, my perspective on EU nationalists is that they think the EU has the same Imperialist chops they used to, rather than being fully subservient to the US. The EU doesn’t have nearly the productive capacity of China, nor the massive financial and millitary Capital of the US Empire, so they piggyback off the US and think themselves more “enlightened” for not doing as much to keep the Empire they profit off of going.
They enjoy the spoils of Imperialism, and participate in it, but shift all of the blame on the US and act like they are innocent. The US is the Imperialist hegemon, correct, but the EU picked its role as vassal states of the Empire and acts like an alternative.
The good news is that as the US Empire continues to fall, so too will the EU, as its thoroughly dependent on the US. That stands to provide a genuine chance at change, the nationalism we see now is a desparate cling to Imperial “glory” as their role fades and China wins simply by focusing on real production.
Seriously. The US gets most of its oil domestically or from South America and Canada. It was stealing oil from Iraq and Syria, but it wasn’t being sent to North America. It was being sent to Europe.
The US does all of Europe’s dirty work, then they pretend like they’re above it. Don’t get me started on how their continent is built on hundreds of years of colonialism, allowing for them to flourish while former colonies never recovered.
100%. It’s a different flavor of disgusting Imperialist apologia from US exceptionalism, world police nonsense.
The EU didnt pick to be a vassal, it was americans (and the british and french to an lesser extend) and installed post war european governments and prevented socialists from joining their countries towards the soviet block. Euros & Canadians arent that different from the whitey in america.
Yes and no, Europe conceded throughout the 20th century to USian dominance. They aren’t different, really, but they also lost to the US in terms of global hegemony. My point isn’t that Europeans aren’t bloodthirsty Imperialists, just that European liberals like to think of themselves as “enlightened” despite also being guilty.
Damn, and burgerlibs are already insufferably holier-than-thou, condescending, and chauvinistic.
They are, but trump has pretty much given them a reason to think they’re better than everyone, so it’s gotten worse. On Lemmy at least, American libs are very self-flagellating as i said, even wanting their country to be invaded lol. Libs in general are insufferable, but european ones are the worst. All the pro-EU/european federalists on Lemmy should just fuck off back to reddit, would make it much easier to avoid their bs.
seppos got nothing on g*rmans