Feddit post in support of zionism
Hi.
In the past few days, discontent regarding mod decisions in this community has been brewing, particularly when it comes to comments on Palestine, Israel, and Israeli politics and actions. There are also misunderstandings regarding mod intention and German law. We hope to clear that up with this post.
While the servers of feddit.org are in Austria, most of the mods of this community as well as admins of this server live in Germany. Speaking of, our server admins have also posted a write-up on the same topic.
And with that, let’s go:
In Germany, antisemitism is specifically sanctioned in German criminal law, both for speech and as a motivation for other criminal behavior. In addition, Germany seeks to protect the Jewish state of Israel (the so-called “Reason of State” introduced in 2008) and thus verges toward protecting Zionism as well. Certain criticism of Israel/Israelis is also categorized as “Israel-related antisemitism”.
Since criminal law is involved, enforcement can mean things like police raids and device confiscations. After such police action, it does not really matter if it was appropriate or if cases are dropped or never charged: The damage is done. All told, it’s not that fun.
There is also no point in engaging in discussions about the veracity of statements that could get us into legal trouble. In addition, we believe that you can express most opinions without breaking rules.
Another post about they are totally not Zionazis
Hello all,
in the last few days there have been some accusations against the moderators of !europe@feddit.org as well as against our admin team of being Nazis or Zionists, mainly because of the way of dealing with criticism of Israel.
We explicitly reject these accusations and will not tolerate such accusations. In particular, people who accuse others in this way without any concrete objective reason are not welcome on feddit.org. This is already covered by our rule of respectful interaction.
First of all, we would like to remind you, that the use of feddit.org must be compliant with the rights and regulations of the DACH region. This is explicitly mentioned in our instance rules, and includes Germany (D), Austria (A) and Switzerland (CH). The infrastructure of feddit.org is maintaind by the Fediverse Foundation, a non-profit association in Austria. Our Admin team, which takes care of the instance wide moderation, organization and supporting infrastructure operations, is based in Germany. Since we primarily target the German speaking coutries, we also try to comply with laws and regulations of Switzerland.
Even if we do not have to actively search for violations of the law, it is necessary to intervene after becoming aware of them. This includes, for example when moderators or admins receive messages about posts or comments, but also when such content is discovered by chance when browsing Lemmy.
In this instance, we fully support the moderators of !europe@feddit.org to potentially remove too much rather than too little in case of legal uncertainties.
One of the triggers for the current debate is this post, which followed the removal of a comment comparing National Socialism with the current situation in Israel, which can be considered a trivialization of National Socialism. Such statements can, among other things, lead to imprisonment. Among other things, the post claimed that the removal had a Zionist motive, an accusation that should always be supported by appropriate evidence and prior to which it should be ruled out that there are alternative explanations.
We will not be removing every comment that goes even remotely in this direction, but we reserve the right to permanently ban users from feddit.org who make unfounded accusations, such as labeling our instance, admins, moderators, or other users as Nazis or Zionists, without substantial supporting arguments. This is especially the case when this is recurring behavior and not an isolated incident.
This includes content such as this post by @Deceptichum@quokk.au, who was banned from our instance shortly before that post due to multiple incitements of violence and terrorism. This person also seems to be the admin of the instance quokk.au, or at least to have good relations to the admin, since we received a censure on Fediseer from quokk.au around the same time, in which we are being accused of being Zionists and Nazis, and @Deceptichum@quokk.au has suggested to defederate quokk.au from us (archive).
If this censure by quokk.au is not withdrawn in a timely manner, we will defederate quokk.au from our side for these unsubstantiated and untrue accusations. quokk.au is a relatively small instance with only a few local users, which tried to build an alternative news community that is not on one of the “big” instances. Unfortunately, this community also seems to be a poor alternative if this is how their admin typically acts.
Wow the German instance is full of nazis? Nobody could see that coming
All european instances have been showing they are ass lately, First the
and now the
at this point i would be surprise if next month the one from the netherlands becomes anti-migrant nazis
I did Nazi that happening.
Posting it here before everyone else
At this point we should all have to fill one of these out before we are allowed to create an account and comment on anything.
History, as it does, will recognize this genocide for what it is, and will not only condemn thise who are carrying it out, but those who are standing idly by and letting it happen.
One would think that Germsns would be particularly aware of that fact, and after already being responsible for one genocide, would deliberately not be complicit in another.
German support of isreal is mostly as a way to whitewash its past from its fascist behavior so that can still continue it, they never learned anything
That German Guilt Pride video really unpacks this really well too. I’ll see of I can dig up the link.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Germans treat the Holocaust as a PhD in genocide, and they will never stop proudly parading it around as a credential
A PhD in genocide AND fascism
They love lecturing
about
even though 90% of what makes him fascist is the shit he has in common with mainstream German politics
Henry Morgenthau did nothing wrong
Zionism is the belief nazis and hundreds of years of antisemitic conspiracy theories are correct in saying Jews cannot be members of non-Jewish communities. So yeah that tracks. Rather than eliminate antisemitism within Germany and the rest of Europe, they exported it to Palestine.
Its a lot like the evangelicals and southern baptists who only support israel either to deport all jews there or to achieve some prophecy they have
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
I’m not reading all that lol
instead I’ll just repost the timeless Michael Brooks response, “it’s not a complex issue,” where he switches the roles of Israelis and Palestinians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62I61kBahNY&t=260s
figure it out, feddit
As a side note, I didn’t know Brooks was Jewish for the longest time. So when he’d make fun of Sam Seder for being Jewish and Sam would get visibly flustered, I was like “Holy shit lmao what does Brooks have on Sam that he gets away with this? Is he Sam’s illegitimate nephew? Are the snuff tapes actually real?”
Nope! The majority of the Majority Report staff happened to be Jewish (Jaime Peck is, too).
“my glasses”
“Have you looked at the social security actuarial tables lately”
I remember when some chud called Seder a “crypto-jew” and he was like dude look at my surname lol
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
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scroll the comments and it’s very obviously the latter
The servers are hosted in austria, the said it themselves
They just want to support zionism while using the nuremberg defence to jutify it
Bingo. It’s all an excuse.
You’re telling me you can set up and maintain a federated Lemmy instance, but you just can’t figure out how a VPN and hosting things outside the Fourth Reich works?
Fuck off, fascists. The mask has already slipped—drop the act.
Entirely unsurprising and deeply unserious. The price to humanity for the West never de-Nazifying has been immense.
But have you considered that the Nazis where anti commie. and we cannot let the dirty commies win?
Your joke is less funny knowing people actually believe this…
instance, admins, moderators, or other users as Nazis or Zionists, without substantial supporting arguments.
“We are only zionazis if you convince us we are in the free marketplace of ideas.”
Tbh shit like this is why hexbear is the literal only space online I feel the least bit comfortable speaking in (and probably lemmygrad as well).
They also threaten to defedarate from a small instance because they called out their zionism on fediseer, they are scared of any criticism
let them isolate lol
Let’s split Germany into quarters this time. Maybe zigzags.
We have to split germany into more than just quarters this time
Bohemia and friends looking real cohesive, otherwise a good start
Also gotta get rid of the Teutonic order, nothing Teutonic is good
Just rename it danzig and split up poland as well
Leave Czechia be, they are smol bean
We need to carve Germany out of the crust and shoot it into the sun
Beware, somebody will say this is pro genocide and anti German
I keep saying we only need to claim a city bloc in Germany is Prussia and all the dominoes will fall from there.
Give Germany to the Gazans and stuff the Germans into Gaza.
They did that, but the
and
administered parts got joined together.
Removed by mod
The German right-wing white supremacist instance engaging in censorship for the benefit of genocide loving zionazis???
What a shock, I can’t believe Germans of all people would become racist cowards who hide behind state decrees, truly no historical precedent
I cannot be, they ban anyone who uses the name nazi… but if you call it something else … like an alternitive for germany, then its TOTALY diffrent
Its only genocide if it looks like 1940s germany, well except when its israehellis doing it then its reverse genocide which is good again.
“We are not zionists, we are just the most pathetic nerds ever”
How to be hated by both reactionaries and leftists in one simple trick.
We aren’t Nazis! We’re just cowardly collaborators with no spine.
If this was a community specifically about the middle-east I would agree with you that it would have been unwise to host it on feddit.org due to the legal situation affecting its admins and some of the moderators here.
But it is not, and generally speaking Germany is not an autocratic state with severe repression of political activism, so for most topics it is a better place to host communities that might involve such.
Oh! Good thing Germany doesn’t punish the most important political activism! You might not be able to criticize the most horrifying crime going on in the world at the moment, but at least you can talk about fantasy Hobbit communes!
generally speaking Germany is not an autocratic state with severe repression of political activism,
translation: “nothing I care about is banned, so I’m fine”
A db0 nerd mention in one of the posts, the first police brutality video was posted in feddit and german lemmitors were supporting the cop
I found YouTube links in your comment. Here are links to the same videos on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
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You know what else is illegal under german law? Communism, hammers and sickles, etc
what a cool and normal place
No it’s not? I saw a guy yesterday wearing the five heads of Marxism on a t-shirt lol
What’s banned is the old KPD, which is why the new KPD (which exists due to a legal loophole in the reunification treaty) sometimes gets harassed by the cops.
There is a certain crackdown on USSR associated imagery at WW2 memorial events, but beyond that, the cops and courts don’t have enough of a reason to go after ML groups on the basis of symbolism and self-proclaimed adherence to a communist worldview.
There is a certain crackdown on USSR associated imagery at WW2 memorial events,
Sore losers
A convenient excuse to push for remilitarization, and paint the current enemy as always malicious!
I’ve always said that the best route to take when you’ve been accused of supporting genocide and apartheid is to double down
The reason they gave for removing that comment and banning him was
baseless accusations of zionism
even though his comment didn’t mention Zionism
I’ve always said that the best route to take when you’ve been accused of supporting genocide and apartheid is to double down
“And that’s why I changed my pfp to King Leopold II”