I came to a post on this community where a user said that a certain community was zionist. But their comment was really long and I wasn’t sure if it had been removed for that or something else. So I wanted to test it myself.
I went to that community and posted something that’s only offensive to zionists. My post was pro-jewish and anti-zionist, so there was no way to confuse it as meaning something else. I wanted to see what would happen. Either it would get removed for zionist reasons, get removed for other reasons, or stay up. That would answer my question. It got removed because the mod said they felt rage baited. That answered my question. I linked the post and the modlog here as evidence, to share my findings. Now everyone knows for sure whether that community is zionist.
What I wasn’t expecting is Ada’s response. She said in the modlogs she also felt the post was rage bait. I didn’t see that coming because I didn’t think Ada was a zionist. I thought she would be fine with seeing zionists get angry, because they get angry over the most mild things.
Is Ada supporting zionism?
I went to that community and posted something that’s only offensive to zionists.
It got removed because the mod said they felt rage baited.
She said in the modlogs she also felt the post was rage bait.
Is Ada supporting zionism?
No. BPR and YDI. You went into stir shit, you got mad people smelled it and cleaned it up.
Anti-zionism smells nice, not like shit. All of my girlfriends are happy when they see it. Except for their sadness for Palestine. But they’re happy that I’m being a good girl and speaking out.
YDI. Rage baiting is a form of trolling. The point is not necessarily that your opinion is infuriating the mod, but that it’s intended to cause intense discussions (typically between third parties) which often devolve into flamewars that are difficult to moderate therefore wasting the mods’ time and deteriorating the community cohesion. If your plan was to have a constructive discussion about the topic, there’s other ways to word it. But it’s clear when you don’t want to do that.
I didn’t intend either of those. The third option is overwhelming evidence against the /europe mod leads to the feddit.org admins taking the community away from the mod for breaking the instance rules. I did my part. I thought lots of other users were going to as well. It’s part of being a responsible netizen. I wanted to be a good girl who does the right thing when zionists are banning other people.
YDI, you should take the message. Your ragebaitng isn’t seen as acceptable. Now when people including the mod are calling you out on it, instead of stopping and disengaging you’re doubling down and calling them Zionists. This doesn’t help you, it’s just going to make your situation worse.
You’re a month old account, approaching a topic in a way designed to maximise rage responses and arguments. Stop doing that
What I wasn’t expecting is Ada’s response. She said in the modlogs she also felt the post was rage bait. I didn’t see that coming because I didn’t think Ada was a zionist. I thought she would be fine with seeing zionists get angry, because they get angry over the most mild things.
Is Ada supporting zionism?
Looks like she just can’t help herself, the message has been made clear and she continues to stir the pot…
I’m not going to remove someone for complaining about my moderation. Which is to say, ranting about me in this community is something I’ll leave up to the community mods to deal with however they feel appropriate.
I agree that’s more than fair. I just think it sets a precedent for future incidents when they should happen again.
I’ve said zionism is antisemitic dozens of times offline and online. I’ve said it at protests, to friends, to girlfriends, to acquaintances, to Jewish people, to Muslims. It doesn’t start arguments.
It gets agreement from normal people, or censorship from people in charge. And this is my first time having it censored. I knew people had a problem with it because I’ve seen it be censored when other people say it, but this is my first time having someone not say I’m right.
If I took issue with what you were saying, it would have been a permanent ban.
I took issue with how you said it, which is to say, you started a new “conversation” out of the blue, framed in a way designed to start an argument. And even that wouldn’t have been enough to get me involved, except that you don’t have a history of posting on this topic, your account is new, and I’ve previously removed a comment of yours for arguing with a femboy about what kind of memes he’s allowed to post.
tl;dr your account has a bunch of red flags, and this post was one of them. So you got a temp ban.
It wasn’t designed to start an argument. Nobody argues against zionism being antisemitic. If they don’t like it, they ban it. It was designed to be banned. And I got banned.
I don’t think the same way as you do. I don’t think it’s argument worthy. Let me prove it, I can post it on Liberty Hub and there won’t be any arguments. Everyone will agree. Zionism being antisemitic is just what normal people think.
It was designed to be banned.
And that’s the issue.
From a new account, with no discussion history on the topic that I could find, with no previously removed posts, it looked inflammatory, and it was, deliberately so. So you got a short term ban.
If you’d been a long term user, or had a posting history that made it clear you were trying to demonstrate a point, I’d have left your account alone. But as it was, I couldn’t tell you apart from a troll. I wasn’t certain, which is why it wasn’t permanent.
Trolls don’t make zionists angry. They make good people angry. If trolls made bad people angry, then trolls wouldn’t be so bad.
Good girls make zionists angry. Good girls go to protests and boycott bad companies and speak out against bigots who make Mummy cry.
Anyway, you’re all good to go now. I know you’re not a troll
I think you’re missing a fundamental point Ada is trying to make here. She doesn’t necessarily disagree with the point you’re making, but with the way you’re making it, because it inevitably would increase her workload of rule-breaking comments by “bad people” that she’d have to remove.
No, it didn’t. Three reasons why:
- People don’t argue against zionism being antisemitic
- The post got removed by the mod just like I was expecting
- It wasn’t on a Blahaj community, Ada didn’t have to do anything
Ada was never in danger of having extra work because of that post.
Rage baiting is not nice. Stirring drama; is not nice. If you had a point to made, I think it would had been taken better. Rage baiting is not nice.
What I wasn’t expecting is Ada’s response. She said in the modlogs she also felt the post was rage bait. I didn’t see that coming because I didn’t think Ada was a zionist. I thought she would be fine with seeing zionists get angry, because they get angry over the most mild things.
Ada likely wants a civil community. Allowing ragebait of any kind isnt conducive to a civil community. It likely has nothing to do with the content of the bait.
Pointless rage bait post. Lucky for you I think that’s allowed in this community.
Encouraged even
YDI/YDM, you were warned to stop and were even given a temporary ban for it. The fact that you’re here whining about it like you’ve been wrongfully treated proves you didn’t learn your lesson or even get the memo.
Jfc, this is so YDI I can’t believe you’re even posting here.
BPR/YDI. The fact you are doubling down on the shit stirring here confirms it was the right call by both mods/admins.
I can’t even really make sense of this but I think the diagnosis as pointless rage bait is pretty accurate
Your post is bad, and you should feel bad.
Bad faith intent… Not sure if should have censored but you shouldn’t be doing that. It is poor decorum.
Discourse should be organic for it to have any value IMHO
I’m not angry when I read that zionism is antisemitic. PTB.
