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A month ahead of Switch 2’s global release, we accidentally bought a real motherboard of Switch 2! We decided to reverse-engineer its NVIDIA SoC, and reveal the spces of its CPU and GPU, even head to a FIB-SEM to ensure its process node! We’d also simulate the performance on a similar PC to see how powerful is Switch 2. Stay tuned!

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    A bit of topic, but it pains me to see how powerful high end phones got. Like most people just use them to text and scroll social media. Why do people spend that much money?!

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      Apps by corporations are stuffed with ads, telemetry and other crap. It uses frameworks on top of other frameworks and import libraries for the dumbest shit. For example the reddit app is about 120mb while my lemmy voyager app is 8mb…

      The twitch.tv app is 150mb while an open source twitch app is 25mb. It has even more functionality and options and runs like butter.

      Most of the shit phones have to run and process is in the background to track and sell.

      Its really bad and why i encourage people to use open source versions of stuff they use.

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      The big benefit is that much horsepower allows the phone to very very rapidly “race to sleep” in that the faster it can crunch the numbers then return to a much slower clock the less power it’ll consume overall

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      I keep my phones for 6-8 years. I’m in my 40s and have only ever bought 3 phones, going back to the iPhone 2 3g

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      There are real video games for phones now, and I’m pretty sure emulation is up to at least on the gamecube era. Slap a controller on it and a phone is pretty much just a hyper-powered gameboy advance.

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        I can totally emulate PS2 and some Switch games on my phone, but never really use the power

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      theres also isnt much difference, so the higher end , aka flagship ones are slightly better than the previous editions. no need to spend 800-1k+, i bought a OPR12 instead. pixels tries to justify thier flagship prices with thier useless AI chips.

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        Yea, I got the op 12 because it was just $50 more than the r on Amazon at the time.

        It’s definitely powerful enough but I’m slightly disappointed by the software, arcore is just completely broken, and hdr is fairly spotty (works in yt app and photos app but doesn’t work in chrome or Google photos)

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          the op12 has higher memory capacity storage, and beter telephoto lens, i dont really like the curved screen though, other than that its good. i think 13 or mostly got rid of that curved screen.

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            Yeah, it’s probably not something I would have chosen if I had the option but I don’t really care about the curved screen.

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      If anything, it makes me wonder why we don’t have more small dedicated handheld gaming devices that aren’t phones or pseudocomputers and don’t cost a bomb.

      Like a £220 PSP/GBA/DS-like device with decent first-party support would be really nice for me imo

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        You can buy handhelds for like $100 that have basically every console game up to and including ps2/ds preloaded. What else would you need?

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        Because we already have phones.

        The solution is to release games for phones that require a controller, but most companies aren’t willing to be the first ones to do it.

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          I’m probably part of the problem. I’ve never used a controller except a few times at friends’ houses. I grew up with Nintendo DS, Wii, PC, and smartphone games. I don’t want to ever have to pick up a controller.

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            With a phone, there’s a type of controller that wraps around the phone, turning it into a Switch form factor. That’s probably the middle ground between atrocious touchscreen d-pads (or only playing games that actually work well with touch controls) versus lugging around a Dualsense and some mount contraption or kickstanding your phone on a surface.

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              I’ve never had trouble with or resented touch screen D-pads ^^; again I am part of the problem I suppose, because it seems by your post that most people hate the things I’m genuinely satisfied with. I hope the general controller-liking population gets things to serve their needs too, though. Thanks for providing the information for what I’m assuming is the majority.

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        The Switch Lite is exactly this. $200 handheld that runs first party games. There are android handhelds like the Retroid pocket 5 as well.

        A Steam Deck Lite would be incredible. Small, cheap, linux-based, and powerful enough to run indie games and some light 3D. I think that form factor basically needs an arm cpu though.

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          Yeah, I’m taking a look at the RP5 it looks quite good. I wish its GameCube Performance was better but this might be the one for me :D

          If it can also play Steam games/x86 games, that would also be cracked

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        There are plenty handhelds in all shapes and sizes in that price range for exactly this. How many more do we need?

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      I ended up buying a cheap controller that clamps to my phone and run emulators. It works way better than I ever expected.

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        I know but I don’t want to use my phone as a gaming device. The retroid pocket 5 could be the one for me

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      Why do people spend that much money?!

      Conditioning. They have more money so they spend it proportionally.

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      Still the best engineered bang for your Buck/power draw card ever created in my eyes. Power draw of a lightbulb and I put it side by side with my freinds Xbox one at release and beat its performance.

      I wish companies stayed on that track.

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          1000W does sound big enough for a 5090, but what about the other computer components?

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          It’s like we’re returning to the early 00s lol. I used to rock a 450w psu in my 750ti build. :( granted I use a 650w today but my rx580 SND Ryzen 5 1500x is getting dated when it comes to new releases.

          This is the first year I really don’t meeet requirements. Don’t know what to do with this market lol

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            The pc market has taken a very consumerist turn and it’s actually pretty disgusting. Sad times.

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            I’m in the same boat, haven’t really found anything good to upgrade to that doesn’t cost me a kidney.

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    Around the same as the Steam Deck when portable, but with access to significantly better upscaling.

    Such a shame FSR looks so terrible, the Steam Deck would otherwise hold up much better against it.

    I’m still not going to buy one and only use my Deck though.

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      So there really is no excuse for the new Pokemon games to look so terrible.

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          As a !pokemon@lemm.ee fan I didn’t buy for these reasons but that doesn’t stop hordes of parents or certain fans from buying anyways. If they’re happy, I guess… meanwhile I’ll be fine as long as they don’t go after ROM hacks.

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            Rom hacks can be so good, but why can’t we move past hm’s??

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        From what I’ve heard a lot of the same og programmers and animators from the game boy days are still in charge of making the games and they don’t want a large team. They also don’t want to have to work really hard or learn new skills, so basically all the work falls to inexperienced people being led by people with incredibly dated skills. Nintendo still rakes in tons of money so they don’t see the need to interject.

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    People who buy a Switch 2 are not the same people who care about this stuff.

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    I love how my boy 750ti is in there. My first real gpu and my favorite because it was a time when NVIDIA was showing interest in getting the most bang out of lower power draw. That went out the window

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    Obligatory fuck Nintendo, and shame anyone buying their stuff anymore.

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    Yuck, 1/4th the performance of a 3060?

    I already have a 3060 laptop lmao. You can buy a 4070 lenovo laptop at walmart for $1k.

    And nintendo wants to start charging $80 for games? On top of paying an extra subscription to use our own internet? Yeah, fuck that.

    Sail the high seas. Your wallet and your dignity will be better off for it.