another hexbear user who cant fucking read. To be absolutely fucking clear: I care about Palestinians, I believe that both sides of the american political standard are bad for Palestinians. I ALSO believe that one side is worse for Palestinians than the other. I am advocating on behalf of the Palestinians by advocating for the less harmful of the two.
You, on the other hand, couldn’t care lass about anyone and seem to be driven by ideological purity. Because the real world scares you. Because you are a coward. Because you want to feel correct by ignoring reality. You are of no use to anyone.
Now my fifth or sixth hexbear block. Seriously, you do your instance so much damage with your dumbass pontificating.
Don’t reply, I wont see it. Be a better person.
I am advocating on behalf of the Palestinians by advocating for the less harmful of the two.
You’re advocating for the ones who started this most deadly iteration of the genocide and calling them “less harmful.”
You, on the other hand, couldn’t care lass about anyone and seem to be driven by ideological purity.
Right, which is why on hexbear we have been giving money (that many of us don’t have enough of to pay rent and buy food) and real material support directly to Palestinians as well as having actual Palestinian posters. While communists actually do things that actually help people in the real world, liberals are the ones who pretend to care oh ever so much while doing nothing of any material value, and in fact supporting the people and the party that set the genocide on it’s course.
Because the real world scares you. Because you are a coward. Because you want to feel correct by ignoring reality. You are of no use to anyone.
And here’s where the “Every Accusation is a Confession” comes in full force! Every single point, so revealing.
Now my fifth or sixth hexbear block.
And as an example of the Every Accusation a Confession principle of the liberal modus operandi, I will go ahead and point out the same thing Dirt_Owl did: “This has to be a bit. He called me a coward while running away and blocking lmao.” But much more than just that, see how the liberal accuses Dirt_Owl of cowardice, but then goes and does the cowardly thing? See how the liberal accuses Dirt_Owl of ignoring reality, while plugging their own ears and saying “lahlahlah I can’t heeeear you!” See how the liberal accuses Dirt_Owl of being afraid of the world while themselves refusing to even entertain a perspective that challenges their own? See how the liberal says Dirt_Owl is “of no use to anyone” as a strange out-of-nowhere insult, when it is widely known that liberals are seen by people across the "political spectrum* as being useless? They just can’t help but tell on themselves with every little “gotcha” or snide insult they try to use against others.
I ALSO believe that one side is worse for Palestinians than the other.
I mean we could talk about the liberal application of belief when talking about verifiable facts but I’m just gonna point out you’re completely wrong, the side you believe is better did literally nothing to stop Israel’s genocide.
jesus christ, I said the word ‘believe’ so you latched on to that, then said the same shit I’ve dealt with by all your twat friends; I’ve already replied to you, you just didn’t fucking read it. Another hexbear block, good job ruining your instances reputation dickhead.
Biden sending Israel bombs knowing they would flatten entire residential blocks full of families: milquetoast centrism
I love when politics are just normal and boring so liberals like you can just go to brunch and watch TV without thinking about the world system that’s necessary to sustain your treats.
Yeah there’s a difference, but you are being tricked into fighting against your own interests and the interests of all the victims of imperialism when you make your political struggle the struggle for putting people like Biden in power. You will never fix the problem by putting another Biden in power, or even a Bernie, because the problem is structural and it’s called capitalism.
I’m being tricked? because I called out a shitty opinion? Takes a real true believer to see this much based on a comment on moral equivalency. This dude made a shit opinion. That doesn’t mean I’m a fucking “vote blue no matter who” dickhead. Slow your roll.
jesus another hexbear user who has issues with reading comprehension. fuck me. one more reply then you are my fourth block.
the current administration is worse for Palestine than the previous (also hostile to Palestine) administration.
I’m talking about ‘normal’ shitty colonialism making milquetoast excuses, an administration who are bad but in the same way every other administration in US living history, versus the current eager and loud administration who delight and revel in the hatred, and actively encourage the visible and very real acceleration of the genocide against the innocent Palestinian population.
Both are bad, I hate that those are the choices. But any sane person interested in the actual welfare of the living people who are being terrorised and systematically murdered by the hideous apartheid regime that is isreal, would understand that less harm is better than more harm.
Honestly, in a world full of right wing hatred, the stripping of minority rights and open bigotry, you think someone who actually cares would spend their time attacking the people advocating for that rather than bickering with someone whom they think is supporting Palestine the wrong way.
Fucking pathetic. I’m embarrassed for you, and all of your peanut gallery friends.
The thing is, I do agree with the moral equivalence. Biden committed genocide. Trump is committing genocide. Biden set up Trump to do all the right wing cultural stuff by never actually wielding power and doing things like stacking the courts, codifying Roe v Wade, etc. Biden set Trump up for the push on immigration with his own rampant deportation program, failing to shut down Gitmo, non-action on legalizing drugs, and ramping up of police budgets under his admin.
There’s clear continuity of agenda between the admins. I don’t deny that there’s a difference, but if you think the difference is significant enough that your political calculus is anywhere in the realm of “we need a Democrat again but good” then you need to read Lenin’s Bourgeois and Proletarian Democracy.
Yes there is, dems are the part of the ratchet that stops things from swinging back further left. The two party system is entirely broken. But being complicit is very different from being eager. Right now, more Palestinians are dead then could have been. I’d prefer no dead palestinians, but given thats not on the table right now I will take less genocide. Anything that results in less dead innocents.
You need to take a step back to understand how power works. The reason there even are options on the table is because capital is fully comfortable with you picking either one. The only solution if you really believe in stopping the slaughter machine isn’t to pick the option on the table, it’s to take a sledgehammer to the whole thing and join the PSL.
or it manifests in a bolder and more aggressive approach from the people committing genocide. Fucking ideologues man, you’re all so impotent and angry.
What rise? The country has been fascist since before anyone here was born. Those fascists have been enabled by people like you cheering on politicians while they put people in concentration camps at the border, strip away basic rights such as abortion while never even allowing others like healthcare, and outright commit genocide. Be honest with yourself: you don’t hate Trump because he’s a fascist, you hate him because he’s not a “polite” fascist.
That’s just not true. Biden was giving Israel unconditional support. Trump is currently giving them unconditional support after the ceasefire. The meatgrinder doesn’t get any faster. There is no more support the Zionists could even physically be given.
fuck me, I know Biden was a war criminal piece of shit, but fuck COME ON. there is a difference. I’m not disagreeing that the left in america is an embarrassment, but it is absolutely not better now than it would have been. this isn’t hard, unless you care less about lives than your bespoke political stance.
Trump is an idiot narcissist. That doesn’t change the facts on the ground of the genocide: the IDF didn’t gain any additional capacity to inflict death upon the people of Gaza when Trump came to power. They are continuing with the same carnage and with the same vigor they had under Biden’s unrelenting and unequivocal support.
Your a guy named Dave. I’m assuming from this point on that means you’re Dave Navarro. What ever happened to the band Supernova from your show Rockstar: Supernova
compared to whats happening now it is. I want the system to burn just as much as you do, if not more. But I would prefer less genocide to more genocide. because there IS a difference. I swear, you guys are deliberately obtuse.
I think a decent country should label the systematic killing of hundreds of thousands of people as alarming and a sign of an evil political system at work. A difference in scale would still be a tragedy but you couldn’t really say that extermination is milquetoast centrism in reasonable company. If your country is throwing people in a meat grinder, to use your words, you’re already in a point where it would be appropriate for someone to ask:
What rise? The country has been fascist since before anyone here was born. Those fascists have been enabled by people like you cheering on politicians while they put people in concentration camps at the border, strip away basic rights such as abortion while never even allowing others like healthcare, and outright commit genocide. Be honest with yourself: you don’t hate Trump because he’s a fascist, you hate him because he’s not a “polite” fascist.
Yes we’re living in the worst timeline. You are attacking the people interested in triage and shouting about the better world you would like to see in the future. so fucking self centred.
What is the difference? How was Biden less genocide when Israelis have openly stated that after Oct 7, Biden’s admin not once asked for restraint or to stop bombing hospitals! There couldn’t have been a more full-throated support of the genocide from Biden!
Less dead people vs more dead people. I just care about Palestinians more than I care about being an ideological grandstander on the internet. It is worse now, yes.
Yep, I also am not a big fan. But I measure my anger because I want to work towards a better future. I am sure bleating about how the world could be better is also fun tho, if a little directionless.
oh look another hexbear with reading comprehension problems. fuck me, blocked, be a better person for fuck sake, you are no use to anyone like this.
Tell that to the Palestinians
another hexbear user who cant fucking read. To be absolutely fucking clear: I care about Palestinians, I believe that both sides of the american political standard are bad for Palestinians. I ALSO believe that one side is worse for Palestinians than the other. I am advocating on behalf of the Palestinians by advocating for the less harmful of the two.
You, on the other hand, couldn’t care lass about anyone and seem to be driven by ideological purity. Because the real world scares you. Because you are a coward. Because you want to feel correct by ignoring reality. You are of no use to anyone.
Now my fifth or sixth hexbear block. Seriously, you do your instance so much damage with your dumbass pontificating. Don’t reply, I wont see it. Be a better person.
You’re advocating for the ones who started this most deadly iteration of the genocide and calling them “less harmful.”
Right, which is why on hexbear we have been giving money (that many of us don’t have enough of to pay rent and buy food) and real material support directly to Palestinians as well as having actual Palestinian posters. While communists actually do things that actually help people in the real world, liberals are the ones who pretend to care oh ever so much while doing nothing of any material value, and in fact supporting the people and the party that set the genocide on it’s course.
And here’s where the “Every Accusation is a Confession” comes in full force! Every single point, so revealing.
And as an example of the Every Accusation a Confession principle of the liberal modus operandi, I will go ahead and point out the same thing Dirt_Owl did: “This has to be a bit. He called me a coward while running away and blocking lmao.” But much more than just that, see how the liberal accuses Dirt_Owl of cowardice, but then goes and does the cowardly thing? See how the liberal accuses Dirt_Owl of ignoring reality, while plugging their own ears and saying “lahlahlah I can’t heeeear you!” See how the liberal accuses Dirt_Owl of being afraid of the world while themselves refusing to even entertain a perspective that challenges their own? See how the liberal says Dirt_Owl is “of no use to anyone” as a strange out-of-nowhere insult, when it is widely known that liberals are seen by people across the "political spectrum* as being useless? They just can’t help but tell on themselves with every little “gotcha” or snide insult they try to use against others.
I mean we could talk about the liberal application of belief when talking about verifiable facts but I’m just gonna point out you’re completely wrong, the side you believe is better did literally nothing to stop Israel’s genocide.
jesus christ, I said the word ‘believe’ so you latched on to that, then said the same shit I’ve dealt with by all your twat friends; I’ve already replied to you, you just didn’t fucking read it. Another hexbear block, good job ruining your instances reputation dickhead.
Yes, maybe you should analyse why you said that
I was gonna join Hexbear because I like their takes on Juche, but I hear Dave thinks they aren’t acting in good faith.
Posting all Dave, Juching all night
Biden sending Israel bombs knowing they would flatten entire residential blocks full of families: milquetoast centrism
I love when politics are just normal and boring so liberals like you can just go to brunch and watch TV without thinking about the world system that’s necessary to sustain your treats.
Biden sucked, the dems suck, but there is a fucking difference.
Yeah there’s a difference, but you are being tricked into fighting against your own interests and the interests of all the victims of imperialism when you make your political struggle the struggle for putting people like Biden in power. You will never fix the problem by putting another Biden in power, or even a Bernie, because the problem is structural and it’s called capitalism.
I’m being tricked? because I called out a shitty opinion? Takes a real true believer to see this much based on a comment on moral equivalency. This dude made a shit opinion. That doesn’t mean I’m a fucking “vote blue no matter who” dickhead. Slow your roll.
You literally called active support for fascist genocide “milquetoast”. Seems a pretty fair assumption.
jesus another hexbear user who has issues with reading comprehension. fuck me. one more reply then you are my fourth block.
the current administration is worse for Palestine than the previous (also hostile to Palestine) administration.
I’m talking about ‘normal’ shitty colonialism making milquetoast excuses, an administration who are bad but in the same way every other administration in US living history, versus the current eager and loud administration who delight and revel in the hatred, and actively encourage the visible and very real acceleration of the genocide against the innocent Palestinian population.
Both are bad, I hate that those are the choices. But any sane person interested in the actual welfare of the living people who are being terrorised and systematically murdered by the hideous apartheid regime that is isreal, would understand that less harm is better than more harm.
Honestly, in a world full of right wing hatred, the stripping of minority rights and open bigotry, you think someone who actually cares would spend their time attacking the people advocating for that rather than bickering with someone whom they think is supporting Palestine the wrong way.
Fucking pathetic. I’m embarrassed for you, and all of your peanut gallery friends.
One more reply, then I’m done.
The thing is, I do agree with the moral equivalence. Biden committed genocide. Trump is committing genocide. Biden set up Trump to do all the right wing cultural stuff by never actually wielding power and doing things like stacking the courts, codifying Roe v Wade, etc. Biden set Trump up for the push on immigration with his own rampant deportation program, failing to shut down Gitmo, non-action on legalizing drugs, and ramping up of police budgets under his admin.
There’s clear continuity of agenda between the admins. I don’t deny that there’s a difference, but if you think the difference is significant enough that your political calculus is anywhere in the realm of “we need a Democrat again but good” then you need to read Lenin’s Bourgeois and Proletarian Democracy.
Yes there is, dems are the part of the ratchet that stops things from swinging back further left. The two party system is entirely broken. But being complicit is very different from being eager. Right now, more Palestinians are dead then could have been. I’d prefer no dead palestinians, but given thats not on the table right now I will take less genocide. Anything that results in less dead innocents.
You need to take a step back to understand how power works. The reason there even are options on the table is because capital is fully comfortable with you picking either one. The only solution if you really believe in stopping the slaughter machine isn’t to pick the option on the table, it’s to take a sledgehammer to the whole thing and join the PSL.
oh my god, the lack of self reflection is astounding.
The only difference between being complicit and being eager us how you feel which means fuck all to anyone but you
or it manifests in a bolder and more aggressive approach from the people committing genocide. Fucking ideologues man, you’re all so impotent and angry.
@Shitbird@hexbear.net NEW DAVE JUST DROPPED
fuck off memelord.
Is your favourite (Daveourite) game Davetona USA for the Sega Saturn circa 1995?
Shoot me with your gun
dont have one.
Then you’re a very poorly armed democrat
desperate for attention.
Davesperate
Watch out, Dave is armed with poorly cropped screenshots
starved for attention
What rise? The country has been fascist since before anyone here was born. Those fascists have been enabled by people like you cheering on politicians while they put people in concentration camps at the border, strip away basic rights such as abortion while never even allowing others like healthcare, and outright commit genocide. Be honest with yourself: you don’t hate Trump because he’s a fascist, you hate him because he’s not a “polite” fascist.
Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were systematically killed under the watch of the most recent Democrat you silly goose.
and the meat grinder got faster after the other guys got in you stupid cunt :D
That’s just not true. Biden was giving Israel unconditional support. Trump is currently giving them unconditional support after the ceasefire. The meatgrinder doesn’t get any faster. There is no more support the Zionists could even physically be given.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DGhfpgHsOg6
fuck me, I know Biden was a war criminal piece of shit, but fuck COME ON. there is a difference. I’m not disagreeing that the left in america is an embarrassment, but it is absolutely not better now than it would have been. this isn’t hard, unless you care less about lives than your bespoke political stance.
Trump is an idiot narcissist. That doesn’t change the facts on the ground of the genocide: the IDF didn’t gain any additional capacity to inflict death upon the people of Gaza when Trump came to power. They are continuing with the same carnage and with the same vigor they had under Biden’s unrelenting and unequivocal support.
I’ve doxxed this guy. Turns out he’s not just SOME guy named Dave but the actual Dave Navarro! From the Red Hot Jane Addictions and Supernova
So your position is that the current genocide is not any worse than it would have been under non-republican rule?
Your a guy named Dave. I’m assuming from this point on that means you’re Dave Navarro. What ever happened to the band Supernova from your show Rockstar: Supernova
My name isn’t dave, this is actually an account I created on the internet, so I could choose any name I wanted to.
Ah so hundreds of thousands of systemic killings is milquetoast? You goofball.
compared to whats happening now it is. I want the system to burn just as much as you do, if not more. But I would prefer less genocide to more genocide. because there IS a difference. I swear, you guys are deliberately obtuse.
I think a decent country should label the systematic killing of hundreds of thousands of people as alarming and a sign of an evil political system at work. A difference in scale would still be a tragedy but you couldn’t really say that extermination is milquetoast centrism in reasonable company. If your country is throwing people in a meat grinder, to use your words, you’re already in a point where it would be appropriate for someone to ask:
Yes we’re living in the worst timeline. You are attacking the people interested in triage and shouting about the better world you would like to see in the future. so fucking self centred.
What is the difference? How was Biden less genocide when Israelis have openly stated that after Oct 7, Biden’s admin not once asked for restraint or to stop bombing hospitals! There couldn’t have been a more full-throated support of the genocide from Biden!
Less dead people vs more dead people. I just care about Palestinians more than I care about being an ideological grandstander on the internet. It is worse now, yes.
First slur dropped
what slur?
You’re the one who posted it. You tell me
ah okay, well no slur. easiest conversation ever, but a bit silly of you to initiate it.
There is a reason the rest of the world hates American you know
Yep, I also am not a big fan. But I measure my anger because I want to work towards a better future. I am sure bleating about how the world could be better is also fun tho, if a little directionless.
How are you working towards a better future?
They voted and then argued on the internet.
not gonna dox myself. go away :D
Already doxxed you. You’re Dave Navarro!