1hr+ for a general update* (following the guide. Pre-kernel)

On a more serious note, gentoo is fun… On competent hardware. This is a 4 core Celeron N2940 with 4gb of RAM.

*emerge --ask --verbose --update --deep --changed-use @world is too long to type…

  • MidsizedSedan@lemmy.worldOP
    31·
    21 days ago

    Weather update. 2hr20min. Terminal output hasnt updated since I posted. Close to giving up for the night. (If it STILL hasnt moved in the morning, ill just start again then)

    • gamer@lemm.ee
      9·
      21 days ago

      You might have run out of memory. Linking in particular can require lots of RAM, and if you run out, the entire machine will freeze.

  • gi1242@lemmy.world
    302·
    21 days ago

    lol. i used Gentoo for 5 years or so. it’s the only distribution I don’t recommend.

    it assumes you have hours of CPU time to waste, and hours of your time to dispatch-config afterwords.

    do Debian or arch.

  • gamer@lemm.ee
    282·
    21 days ago

    Wtf kinda thinkpad is that? No nipple, massive bezels, and rounded corners. Are you sure this isn’t some weird Temu counterfeit?

  • HailHydra@infosec.pubEnglish
    17·
    21 days ago

    When trying to run gentoo, if you’re emerging with fewer than a few dozen cores (either in a single machine with something like a threadripper, or in a cluster with distcc), then I highly recommend using the binary versions of certain packages. This can be done either with -bin versions of packages, or something like the Gentoo Binary Host Project.

    Packages that particularly benifit from using binary versions would primarily web browser or web browser adjacent packages such as Firefox, Chrome, QTWebEngine, but really any particularly large compile that doesn’t benifit from compiling locally (eg: not that many use flags, not likely to use any additional CPU features you might have such as avx512). In fact, bin versions of Web browsers often will perform much better than locally compiled versions since they are compiled with additional optimisations that either make the compile time even longer (O3 and LTO), or require additional manual steps (such as PGO where the unoptomised browser is compiled and ran through real-world workloads with a profiler attached to identify code hotpaths so the compiler can optimise more efficiently during a second complete compile run).

    • MidsizedSedan@lemmy.worldOP
      2·
      21 days ago

      All I have emerged was vim (because nano hurts my muscle memory) and fastfetch (because style points). That took 20 minutes+, but I just hoped its because i didnt select closer mirrors then.

      Oh yeah. OpenRC, Desktop profile, multilib, so whatever packages included in there.

      If i remember, use flags were : -kde, -gnome, -systemd, wifi… Not TOO crazy

      • HailHydra@infosec.pubEnglish
        8·
        21 days ago

        If you’re doing an @world emerge, then you’ll be recompiling all installed packages with updates, including dependencies.

        One of the heavier packages that’s included in almost every desktop profile as a dependency somewhere is dev-qt/qtcore (full list of packages in the standard desktop profile here, though each package listed here will have its own dependencies which may have their own dependencies, etc. So it is not an exhaustive list), qtcore also appears to be what was compiling when the photo in your post was taken so is likely the primary cause of that specific long build time.

  • 4shtonButcher@discuss.tchncs.de
    14·
    21 days ago

    That netbook is not what I would consider a ThinkPad. And distro wise, is crunchbang still a thing? Something simple with openbox or max xfce would probably be a smart choice. This thing won’t be fun for builds or other compute heavy tasks. For browsing the web and chats it’s probably fine

  • grue@lemmy.world
    12·
    21 days ago

    Time to figure out distcc so you can offload the compilation to a faster machine.

      • grue@lemmy.world
        2·
        21 days ago

        I think that’s more for when you have multiple machines (that would use the same USE flags) and you only want to have to compile once. OP’s use-case re: binary packages would be more about getting them from somebody else (i.e. a public binhost that already exists) so he doesn’t have to compile at all.

        • 2910000@lemmy.world
          1·
          21 days ago

          I was suggesting using your own binhost as an alternative to distcc.
          If someone’s considering distcc, presumably they’ve already decided not to use the public Gentoo binaries, and want to do the compilation themselves

          I think that’s more for when you have multiple machines (that would use the same USE flags) and you only want to have to compile once.

          One issue with distcc is some of the build operations can’t be delegated. If you want to minimise resource usage as much as possible (e.g. on old hardware) and want to compile yourself, then running your own binhost makes sense.

  • madduci@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    8·
    21 days ago

    I’ve tried Gentoo with a fork (Sabayon Linux). It was all good and fun until I’ve hit huge build times, especially by kernel updates.

    If you like living on the cutting edge version of packages, then just use Arch or any derived distro

  • sleepmode@lemmy.worldEnglish
    8·
    21 days ago

    Gentoo is fantastic for learning. It forced me to get intimate with internals I had no exposure to before. And I learned a lot of little tricks from it that accelerated my career. Or at least made it easier.

    I’d try to find something a bit more beefy if you plan on compiling almost everything. And once you get it where you like it, take a backup or system image you can restore to. Because when it breaks, it’ll be a lot less painful to start over.