- cross-posted to:
- Germany@europe.pub
- cross-posted to:
- Germany@europe.pub
US Vice-President JD Vance accused “bureaucrats” of rebuilding the Berlin Wall, and Secretary of State Marco Rubio slammed the designation as “tyranny in disguise”.
In an unusual move, the foreign office directly replied to Rubio on X, writing: “We have learnt from our history that right-wing extremism needs to be stopped.”
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Crazy that decent people have a 1000 page report to justify their position, nutjobs have a tweet, and the two are discussed on equal footing.
extreme right: if you don’t think like us we will deport you
everyone else: you are extreme right
extreme right: OMG I AM BEING OPRESSED HEEELP
Trump ordered the IRS to revoke the tax exempt status of the most prestigious university in the US because they refused to capitulate to his fascist demands.
Rubio can choke on a horse dick.
Beatrix von Storch, […] told […] the designation was “the way an authoritarian state, a dictatorship, would treat their parties”.
No Beatrix, an authoritarian state would not let an federal authority create a 1000 pages expert report, but instead just put you and your friends into prison to die without giving any good reasons.
They might badly photoshop an ms-13 tattoo on her knuckles as the “good reason”
What’s that?
Edit: all right, I googled that and now I know what these tattoos are.
And let all of the J6 criminals out of jail in his own country. It’s obvious who and what is being supported. Rubio is a Nazi.
Why does anyone care what the Americans think. Germany don’t need to justify itself to that country north of the gulf of Mexico.
Let’s dispense with this notion that America should be looked up to. We shouldn’t, and we seem to be the only ones at this point who don’t know that.
Hearing them complain is a good reminder that we’re doing the right thing.
I wish US fascists restricted themselves to spreading fascism only in the US.
Global neolib/neofac coop is strong until they eat each other
It kinda sucks that we have to hope the neolibs win in Germany against the neofash.
the neolibs O.o? the fuck?
No we do NOT want the Neolibs aka FDP to return in party strength. The blockage by FDP is one of tha causes for AfDs strengthening.
In the most technical sense of the word, all but die linke and maaaybe the greens are neoliberals. They make neoliberal policy in a capitalist system.
And in defense of my annoyance at the CxU, under Merkel they supported the Orbán regime heavily to undercut their domestic labour with artificially inflated Hungarian labourers.
Uh… Sorry to spoil it for you but the SPD is also neoliberal.
Okay, maybe SPD and the Union are also neoliberal.
Well they are… js in a different way
in all honesty I think this is what could break the neck of european democracies. If we keep depending on them they have the leverage to seriously threaten the already endangered democratic institutions here.
That means multinational corporations would need to be broken up and not having the same Board members/execs on several different now-smaller sized chunks of the same corps boards/in C-suite. It means actual jail sentences for corporate board members and executives and meaningful, painful fines, perhaps elevated restrictions on doing business.
It means actual jail sentences for corporate board members and executives
I’ve been advocating exactly this for many years. One very effective way to give psychopathic corporate “persons” a sense of decency and propriety really quickly is to threaten the real persons running it with real hard time.
ETA: maybe the current fascist terms have the bright side of spitballing ideas to be put in place once the populace wakes up and wrests back truth and power. Maybe we’ll remember for a generation longer than we did after the roaring 20s crash.
The Berlin wall? Is that the only thing his advisors could come up with? Speaking of walls, how’s the Mexican border going? But let’s not digress. The AfD have been close to MAGA for a while now with the infamous Musk interview being just one of several escalations. Notice how their allies’ motto is “Make America great again”. Not Germany. America. They couldn’t give less of a damn about Europe and neither does the AfD. They’re just autocrats who seek support from other autocrats to dismantle a nation and democracy as usual.
But they’re also Nazis
AfD just like MAGAs are Israel’s and Russia’s shoe lickers. Nazis on the other hand despised them, so idk if calling AfD Nazis would be correct, I would just call them fascists personally. In addition nazis werent far-right.
Ofc, the person saying “STFU, Jew” believes in the “Nazis arent right wing” myth.
I may repeat myself, but fuck off, fash
They considered themselves neither right or left wing, and they many times said they are socialists, though they had some far right views, but what they actually were depends on your POV, many historians have different opinions on this topic. Anyways, to answer your original question; your (zionist) opinion is irrelevant to me.
I may also repeat myself, but fuck off, ziopig child killer. We dont want you in Europe.
Btw, replying “fash” is probably the most embarrassing argument, but what can I expect from a zionist? You call everyone “fash” or “nazi” or “antisemitic” that you don’t agree with… and Im not a “fash”.
What they considered themselves is irrelevant. They were backed by Big Business and in their letter to Hindenburg, the Industrialists who got Hitler into power described him as the leader of the largest “völkische” Movement. These movements were exclusively right-wing.
Many historians have different opinions
Most are pretty sure: They were fascists and Fascism is a right wing ideology.
They’re pushed out their socialist wing in 1928. Hell, they killed off the remaining ones in 1934. There was nothing socialist about this regime.
To your main point: You can’t distinguish between Jews and Zionists. You are playing into the Hand of Zionists.
So again, shut up fash We don’t want you in Europe.
What does left and right mean for you?
Going by its historic origins, progressives on the left, reactionaries and monarchists on the right, the Nazis were absolutely reactionary and thus far-right. They were only progressive where it suited them, like having women in factories freeing up men for the military.
Speaking purely of economic policy, left would be a collectivist economy and right an individualist one. In that regard, the Nazis were not quite far-right, as they favoured government intervention and influence, again, because of war efforts. They did a few token campaigns to appease workers, but didn’t limit or abolish privately held companies (as they wanted the rich and powerful on their side for the war). And you’d only get disowned if you happened to have the wrong ancestors, not because you were explotliting your employees.
As opposed to the open tyranny of the Trump regime?
Of course they protest. AfD was Vance’s & co. door to stoke like-minded (e.g. Nazi) majorities in germany.
Was?! Still is, and sadly will be.
“e.g. Nazis”? Is there anyone else?
Reads like they meant “i.e.” instead of “e.g”
“And trust me, I know tyranny.”
