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    1 day ago

    The Democratic party is right there, and it stands for nothing.

    That’d be nice, but no. The Democratic Party stands for keeping leftists out of power and, if possible, keeping neoliberals in power. It’s a shit platform, but it’s there and it means they’ll fight you tooth and nail (or simply kick you out, as they’re trying to do to David Hogg) if you try to bring even center-left politics to the party.

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      20 hours ago

      Oh, I’m certain they’ll fight, but I’m not talking about changing the party. I’m talking about taking their base to take their seats

      I’m talking about a hostile takeover, we make a big enough faction and we can take the party, along with the infrastructure and less involved voters

      Why do you think they’re trying to kick out Higgs? It’s not because they think he’s more dangerous as an independent

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        15 hours ago

        I’m talking about a hostile takeover, we make a big enough faction and we can take the party, along with the infrastructure and less involved voters

        That’d be nice, but my point is that the party will fight you tooth and nail if you try to do that, and if you choose to work within the party they’ll have a lot more leverage over you via party bylaws, appeals to party unity, etc, and they’ll use that leverage to, for example, dilute your political program and drive a rift between your base and leadership and between more and less dedicated members of the movement. These aren’t trivial concerns; handled improperly (or maybe even if handled properly) they could very well spell the end of your attempted takeover.

        Why do you think they’re trying to kick out Higgs? It’s not because they think he’s more dangerous as an independent

        Because he has a high-ranking office within the party and doesn’t have wide national appeal. Also note that Hoggs isn’t a leftist; he’s a liberal who simply wants Democrat gerontocrats gone. He’s running a completely different path from the one we’re talking about here, and still there’s a good chance he gets kicked out and proves my point that the DNC won’t tolerate change from within.