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“next election”
I wish I could believe there would be a next election or that Americans were capable of learning.
By next election, the 14 words will be on the bank notes.
Biggest problem with Bernie. He’s been beaten for years into somehow believing the liberal lie that we can all be a family if we just vote hard enough. He points out the bullshit well, but then just connects it to voting for more democrats. There needs to be a call for a new workers parry. We need a new party, not a new democrat.
Math & Chaos theory says you have to get rid of FPtP voting before that can happen.
There is a reason the GOP is making other voting methods illegal in states they have control over.
Then, even if you manage that, those parties have to do the work at a local level. The Democratic Socialists seem to be the only 3rd party that understands that. The rest of them are nothing more than novelty parties or outright spoilers.
We need a new party, not a new democrat
Never going to happen while we still have FPTP, at least not the way you think it will. What would really happen, is this new party would split the Democratic vote, and the Republicans would win even harder. You have to get rid of FPTP before any 3rd party will be a realistic possibility. Until then it would just make things even worse.
For President sure, but if say GOP got 45% of house, Dems 35%, party X 20%, surely Dems and X can hold majority and speakership together (and vote the same way on a lot of things), or does GOP get speakership because they have the highest single party vote?
You’re assuming the democrats and this new party would vote the same for SotH and all important bills, in which case what’s the point of this new party? Also most states use FPTP for congressional elections as well, so while democrats and this third party would likely still win some seats, in most locations they would again split the vote and you’d end up with even more GOP congressional representatives than you have now. So it wouldn’t be 45/35/20 GOP/dem/X, it would be more like 80/15/5. That’s just the nature of how FPTP works.
Cute. He thinks there will be an election.
there will be.
the republicants know that when turnout is high, they lose. society and reality lean to the left. that’s why they do all the registration and voter suppression and put up as many obstacles as they can to access the ballot box.
there will need to be historic and unprecedented voter participation in every state and in every district to make up for all that right-wing maga bullshit that tries to keep people from being able to vote.
I honestly thought he was going to lose by an embarrassing landslide last time. I wasn’t just hoping, I was convinced from here in Australia. Heck I even put $100 on Kamala, first time in my life betting on politics.
Strange times indeed.
The rest of the world doesn’t see their propaganda on TV and online, easy to underestimate how many people they have brainwashed.
I bet $50 on her for my own peace of mind, but I knew I’d lose it. She was a late stage afterthought to stem the hemorrhaging created by Biden being a senile entitlement president. We have to get the notion that NOBODY is owed the presidency in this country. It’s either earned or stolen.
Yes it was a bit of a calamity for sure. Sad she didn’t cut it. Even sadder is that too many people went with the orange clown. I can kinda understand why dumb people did, ( as in make that choice, I don’t agree of course ) but it’s just not right at all.
Y’know I was convinced that I would make money on that bet, I thought that the Aussie betting place must have been very badly informed or something when I saw the odds.
DOH !!!
Never don’t misunderestimate the dumbity of Uhmerika.
Same from here in South Africa. Reddit had me fooled that we were about to finally enter a period where this fucking orange painted clown isn’t stinking up the news with his shit filled diaper on a daily basis, after like 10 long years of it.
I was expecting the inbred hillbillies to still vote for Trump but I didn’t realise how many closeted inbred hillbillies there were in the USA.
Evidently a lot of idiots. Sadly I have friends over here that think he’s great. They know to not talk about it to me, and really what’s the point. They see a few minutes a week of him " saying it how it is" and “getting things done”.
I don’t bother arguing with rump supporters, it’s a waste of time.
On another note, I have travelled through your country a little bit back in 1998. Bloody beautiful scenery. Jo Burg was a bit scary.
1998, I was 12 years old lol. The '90s were peak South Africa from my perspective. When we were all still high on Mandela, before Jacob Zuma came along and killed every last bit of hope for the future. That beautiful scenery unfortunately usually only gets seen by tourists because the rest of us are too busy trying to put food on the table.
All I’ve seen of Australia was the inside of an airport on my way to New Zealand lol.
I was all in on the Harris train as well. It was actually the betting odds on election night seeing the odds were in a slight favor for Trump that made me think otherwise.
Also in Australia. It blew my mind. Seriously. I think it broke me a little bit to realise how monumentally fucking STUPID people en masse are. I mean, I kinda suspected it all along, but I was clearly unable to even imagine the actual scale of it.
The election was stolen. Here’s proof. https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/
Good God that’s all terrifying.
Nah kamala is just super unlikable, dems shot themselves in the foot again. Instead of having an electing where dems could pick their fav candidate the dem establishment picked one of the most unpopular ones. But anyone will a brain cell can see kamala is the better choice over trump but still, americans lack commons sense
If they would’ve continued with Biden they would’ve shot themselves in both feet, maybe their arms as well. Think Kamala was considered a much bigger threat as well. We’ll never know what would’ve happened if there was an internal election for candidacy, could create a rally behind the flag effect but also a lot of throwing mud against your ally causing part of the Dems not to vote in the election at all.
Yeah I agree biden was worse then kamala, but they needed to elect a candidate the democrat way not just pick their own corporate dem
Never bet against Ussa stupidity.
Trump will just sign an EO claiming that the nation is in crisis and fair elections are therefore not possible.
Like how much have the right yelled about elections being rigged and unfair and corrupt and so on? They’re obviously setting up the rhetoric to take control and ‘fix’ the ‘problem’, because ‘obviously’ everyone supports trump (or else…)
There’s no way Trump didn’t cheat, even if he didn’t need to. Cheating is in his bones.
It was the most honest thing he said too. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-quote-rigged-election-president/
there will be.
What makes you think so? Your government is actively fascist and I’m not hearing of anything resembling effective resistance three months into this shit. At this rate they will shut down or irreparably rig elections likely before the midterms and definitely before the general.
Because generally, modern authoritarian regimes hold faux elections. So there will be elections. They’ll just likely be rigged.
Agree, no way they will just cancel elections. They will just fix them and lie about it like Putin and Lukashenko do, or if they can’t they’ll at least try like Orbán and Vučić.
Of course there will. It’ll just be illegal to vote for anyone except Trump.
Kash Patel will simply fabricate cases against any potentially electable candidates and prosecute them into oblivion.
Yeah and you can buy a hat to show your support for the regime
The shirt is even worse.
Even Russia has elections.
It breaks my heart that Sanders is the person we needed to turn this shitshow around, and was knifed in the back by his “Compatriots.”
A good man, fucked by a shit system.
I remember the cries of ‘Is Bernie Sanders “Presidential” enough?’ in 2015, and then America electing Trump, and shaking my fucking head.
His own party knifed him in the back, and pushed Clinton.
Of course. It was “her turn”.
The DNC has it’s values, and the likes of Bernie don’t represent them. If AOC ever gets within spitting distance of real power, the whole thing will degenerate into messy infighting, like UK’s Labour did when Corbyn got power.
“But he’s so oooooooollllllldddd.”
God job, democrats.
I remember watching this show called the circus back in 2015 and it tracked all the political shiftings which were happening in the lead up to the big race. Needless to say I lost interest once Bernie wasn’t selected to run the party, shit country that will never fight for their own best interests.
I lost interest once Bernie wasn’t selected to run the party
This is what EVERYBODY doesn’t understand. The DNC is NEVER going to select Bernie because he is NOT a Democrat. He is, and always has been, an Independant.
The presidential nomination is the highest award a party can give to a member, and they are going to give it to a loyal member who has supported the party, raised money for them, praised their actions, etc. Bernie has done none of that. He may caucus with the Dems, but he doesn’t raise money for them, and he has often been very critical of Democrats.
He’s NOT a Democrat, and there was never a time when the Democrats would give him the nomination, no matter how many votes he got in the primary. The last thing the Dems want is for a non-Dem to step up and fix the country, and prove how ineffective they’ve been in every Democratic administration.
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For over 10 years I’ve read that a lot of people want Bernie Sanders as president, yet I’ve never seen him on the news over here on the other side of the globe.
He seems like a guy who cares for the people and plans ahead that other people in charge continue his plans, Democrats and Republicans alike.
That’s because he is a true socialist, and not a corporate minion.
I’ve never heard Senator Bernie Sanders advocate for seizing the means of production. I’ve only followed him since he was mayor of Burlington VT, so what do I know. Please explain how he is a “true” socialist and what you think socialism is.
Not all socialists are communists. Bernie is more a democratic socialist.
Communism=stateless classless moneyless society where workers control the means of production.
Fuck your tankie bullshit.
“I guess Clinton is equally as responsible as Reagan for the calamity we are facing today.”
Yeah, goodbye.
Liberals always say shit like this. You love to call yourselves socialists but don’t want to disrupt capitalism. The delusion is real. You might as well give trump a throne because fence sitting doesn’t help fight fascism.
Calling your bullshit out is not popular, and I don’t care. Socialism is when workers control the means of production, and that is it. Social programs are not socialism.
Bernie has never ever called for seizing the means of production. You liberals can call yourself eagles, but the reality is you are turkeys swallowing fascism into existence.
You can have capitalism and democratic socialism at the same time. That’s what we have now: Social Security, Medicaid, Head Start, Public Schools, etc. You can even have it lean more heavily towards socialism. It’s not an either or situation.
That is correct because democratic socialism is not socialism it is capitalism with social programs.
Socialism is when workers control the means of production and not capitalists.
The means of production are what we use to make things, including land.
Wow, the level of ignorance when it comes to socialism is too darn high.
that other people in charge continue his plans?? If the people in charge would have executed his plans we would live in a much better world right now.
fingers crossed for this weekend’s federal election in Australia to go in a similar trajectory
Gotta get trump to start talking about annexing Australia. That’ll help.
I’ve jokingly referred to us as The United States of Australia for years. We’re already pretty far up America’s arse.
We’re gonna call it “Southwest Hawaii”.
Petition to rename NSW to New South Wisconsin.
Same here. Albo all the way! I’ll be at a polling booth all day, so should be interesting.
Might help if we tell everyone about negative effects of placing tarrifs on wombats and kangaroos
So I went looking to see what Australia’s primary exports to the USA are, at second on the list was ‘Pearls, precious stones, metals, coins’, which was a bit vague, I thought. Fortunately it was a clickable link that breaks it down. Well, shit.
Even if we have another election, it won’t matter until we fix this.
https://sdvoice.info/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-here-are-the-numbers/
https://electiontruthalliance.org/eta
They stole the vote in every way they could. They will do so again.
I hope AOC, Bernie, and friendly governors are hiring DEI military members. If a civil war happens, it would be preferable if our commanders and soldiery is in good order.
It is my guess that Bernie is a man of peace, but I hope he is willing to prepare in advance for the conflict to come.
Guess New England is one of the easiest parts of us to defend in a civil war, so he’s got that going for him as well. First liberate the north east than expand from Canadian border. Go DEI Army Go!
(Can someone call Hollywood, I have a movie to pitch. It’s called The blacks, the gays and the females vs the damned biggot maga-folk 1. Yass)
Bernie thinks there will actually be another real election.
They were cheering “trump 2028” at a 100 day rally yesterday.
Actual Nazis
This is why local elections mean so much. You need to put in people that are going to fight like Bernie for us. It’s the only way.
Trump and the Republicans are pissing off so many people, we’ll see how this plays out. Midterms are going to crash and burn for the Republicans. Not everywhere, but in a lot of places (like Wisconsin).
Well, it the US will have fair and open elections…
I’m really hoping that this translates to Australia. We currently have our main conservative party enlisting literal Christian cultists to intimidate the centre and left volunteers at certain electorates.
Starlink will rig the next one too
Everybody here saying there won’t be an election in 2028 is going to vote lesser evil again.
There is no plan B.
What’s your plan A?
We’re on plan A. We need a plan B.
