Leapards everywhere
Spin spin spin.
Loser was always going to be out by the end of May. This is spin to pump the stock.
Peaceful protests across the nation haven’t accomplished jack.
Burn a few Teslas to the ground and one of the US’s most damaging enemies decides to back off from government.
Shoot a CEO that puts his own greed over human life, and we see other insurers loosen their grip a tad.
…and it goes both ways: carry out an insurrection, claim the presidency.
The system we live in responds exclusively to violence.
We’ve accomplished a lot, but at the end of the day we’re still a bunch of dumb fucking cavemen.
a qoute from star trek episode " if diplomacy fails, violence its the only alternative"- evil janeway.
These two options are not mutually exclusive.
Do not make it sound like violence is the only option. Peaceful protests invite the community and nurtures rapport.
What rights have Americans gained through exclusively peaceful protest?
wheelchair accessability.
I can always tell when someone has not ever been to a peaceful protest because they do not understand their true purpose.
The problem is that you are thinking of peaceful protests as the only form of action being suggested, when that it is simply not the case.
What is happening to the United States (and Canada, the Philippines, Turkey, Hungary, etc.) is an incredibly powerful disinformation campaign, meant to spread division, lies, hopelessness, anger, and fear through social media.
Step one to fight back is to get off social media and start engaging with your community directly.
At peaceful protests, you will connect with:
- Groups looking for volunteers to organize even bigger protests and form coalitions.
- Lists of businesses to boycott
- Planned labor strikes and food drives for striking local union members
- Sign ups for phone calls and letters to Congressional members calling for action.
- Establishing support networks in case disaster strikes the community with first aid training.
- Information on how to be prepared in case martial law is enacted and what to do if a protest turns violent.
- All kinds of artists and musicians, using their talents to spread the word.
- Peaceful protests are the best way to connect with underground and secret coalitions, because it is imperative all coordination takes place completely outside of the Internet for obvious reasons.
There’s a lot more happening, so why don’t you just attend one and find out for yourself if I’m telling you the truth or not?
I did attend. The most that happened is i signed up for a lot of email lists and now i get emails that bring me to more events where we don’t accomplish things and trade emails.
Not a single thing you have listed involves removing fascists from power.
Thanks for making me feel validated.
Peaceful protests invite the community and nurtures rapport.
…alright. So the community shows up and we’ve all establish rapport. A Nazi is still running the place and rights are dropping like flies.
They’re not mutually exclusive - we can do both - but the people in power will continue to ignore anything other than violence.
It all comes down to what the goal is. Different tools for different jobs.
It is morally wrong to call on others to inflict violence.
Fighting back is not the same as using violence to send a message.
All it does is give the regime a reason to attack peaceful protesters.
Peaceful protests are incredibly powerful because that’s all people not working and not buying, and the government can’t just arrest thousands and thousands of peaceful people for no reason.
That’s why they infiltrate protests with instigators. To give them an excuse to use police violence against peaceful innocent people.
It is morally wrong to call on others to inflict violence.
No.
It is illegal. It is not immoral.
It’s morally wrong to advocate for a status quo that’s wrought with carefully engineered suffering- that includes pretending to advocate against it by pushing methods that have proven ineffective over, and over, and over, and over again.
As far as calling on others to inflict violence, I’m actually paying them quite a lot of money to do exactly that. You are too if you happen to be a US tax payer. So I don’t have any issue at all with asking them to stop fucking around and do your job!!
https://www.army.mil/values/oath.html
Every single member of our military is oathbound to engage figures like Donald Trump the same way they do any other enemy of the US… so yeah, if they could maybe take a break from turning brown kids into skeletons and focus on an actual and growing threat to our country, that’d be greeaaat.
Will it happen? Probably not… If it was going to, it would have by now - apparently our military is as stuffed with traitors as our government. But that’s not going to stop me from bitching about it: that’s about all I have the power to do.
Can you not read?
Peaceful protests are not the only option on the table, but they are one of the most powerful ones available to us.
The government cannot touch a peaceful protest with violence without drawing enormous amounts of anger from the rest of the population.
And the bigger and more regular these protests become, it pulls more and more people out of the labor pool and consumer pool, because nobody is working or buying much of anything on days of protests.
I can tell you have never been to a single one, because if you had, you would know that peaceful protests is where everyone is coordinating and spreading useful information, because you cannot do that online.
People who attend peaceful protests go back home learning about boycotts, sabotage, and feeling connected and inspired by others who feel just like they do.
Can you not recognize patterns?
The on-paper sales pitch you’re giving sounds great, but we’ve tried it. It hasn’t worked. When nonviolent protest isn’t effective, violent protest becomes inevitable. Even MLK Jr acknowledged that - literally in the middle of lengthy statement encouraging nonviolence.
The system we live in loves to ignore peaceful protests. We love looking at a crowd of people holding angry signs and saying “that’ll show em!” …and nothing changes, so we do it again. “Mission accomplished!” …and nothing changes, so we do it again. We get headlines like "Protesters have Republicans trembling in fear! or ‘fuming’! or ‘slammed!’ …and nothing changes, so we do it again. And we go back home learning about boycotts, sabotage, and feeling connected and inspired by others who feel just like they do. …and nothing changes, so
we do it againsome dude shoots a CEO dead for denying critical healthcare to millions of people: and claims approval rates skyrocket, controversial policies get rescinded, and the unethical nature of insurers takes the global spotlight for months.Don’t get me wrong - I’d fucking love if we could just yell and angry-carboard all our problems away, but that is pure fantasy. It may well be a therapeutic outlet for the people protesting, but it’s not going to change shit. One dude with 3 bullets got more done for humanity than peaceful protests have in the almost 4 decades I’ve been stuck on this fucking planet.
So, if screaming into the void makes you feel better, by all means do it. I’ll even tap my horn and give you a thumbs-up as I’m driving passed you. But again, a hefty chunk of what would be my pay check goes to institutions and individuals whose function revolves around keeping our country intact and destroying our country’s enemies. Those institutions and individuals are asleep at the wheel right now while cartoonishly evil motherfuckers rip our country apart from the top, so I’ll say again to those people: do your fucking job!
I don’t believe peaceful protests have been effective since the civil rights era.
I can’t legally justify violence.
What’s the third option?
They’ve put a lot of effort into convincing us that it’s was only peaceful protests that were effective in the civil rights era. IDK if they were really peaceful but at the time they were certainly called violent.
And the government made sure to make white people genuinely afraid of violence.
IDK if they were really peaceful but at the time they were certainly called violent.
They worked because the Black Panthers were standing by with rifles, making it pretty clear what the next step would be if the peaceful protests were ignored as they are today. Today’s protests are all bark with no teeth to back to up in case barking doesn’t do the trick.
…and barking isn’t doing the trick.
You can personally perpetuate violence against our oppressors.
Just don’t call on others to do so first.
Other options:
- Boycott
- Sabotage
- Organize coalitions to take concerted action
Keep bullying him
Also, probably don’t do Nazi salutes on stage for the world to see, you absolute twat waffle.
Too late, everyone I know ditched theirs and won’t buy another. Myself included. Fuck off and die Elon.
He should spend less time on earth.
Would definitely be a good time to rekindle his push to go to Mars.
hes going to do it from the shadows , but doge is still active.
This won’t save Tesla.
Or Elon.
he is gonna try to lay low for a while
For the rest of his life I hope
I hope he lays about 6 feet low
