Originally Posted By u/RoyalChris At 2025-04-19 12:25:15 PM | Source


  • RoundSparrow @ .ee@lemm.ee
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    Promoting violence while you hang out on the sides is pretty shitty

    Yes it is, and it’s what Clown Populations do on social machines.

    We don’t need violence, we need people to humanize media systems and stop dehumanizing people they disagree with and start solving the intellectual problems of society.

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      Clown is a known anti-semitic dogwhistle, especially when applied to population groups. It’s entered common usage but you really need to stop pushing this dumbass phrase, like we don’t know you’re trying to get a Lemmy version of the hate sub ClownWorld going.

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        Clown is a known anti-semitic dogwhistle

        it’s a reference to the common phrase “Put Clowns in the Palace, turn the Palace into a clown show”. Citation: On 4th February (2022), Henry Mance used it with impeccable correctness in the Financial Times: ‘An adulterated Turkish proverb is doing the rounds: “When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn’t become a king. The palace becomes a circus.” Well, a circus would be more organised than whatever happened in the British government this week. We have a broken swing and a clown who barely has enough balls to juggle with. Cirque du Soleil, this is not.’

        you really need to stop pushing this dumbass phrase

        Everyone who disagrees with you you bark “shut up” and call dumb asses I see.

        like we don’t know you’re trying to get a Lemmy version of the hate sub ClownWorld going.

        All hate is bad. That’s the problem with social media clowns, they hide their identity and misinterpret everything because they have zero training in media ecology.

        anti-semitic dogwhistle

        This is directed at all media platforms, not just Levant Bible, Levant Torah, Levant Quran consumers at Mosque, Church, Synagogue who often promote out-group hate against any “non-believers”, “gentiles”, “infidels”.

        I’ve been very up-front and direct, not “dogwhistle”, which you can’t seem to understand and comprehend clear and direct communication that isn’t based on manipulation. All you seem capable of mocking and insulting what you disagree with intellectually. Which is a very common problem in April 2025 on Lemmy social media environment and Reddit social media environment and Bluesky social media enviornment. People who are anti-humanism in favor of technology love.

        My message was VERY CLEAR: “Yes it is, and it’s what Clown Populations do on social machines.” - about social machines, Lemmy users. “We don’t need violence, we need people to humanize media systems and stop dehumanizing people they disagree with and start solving the intellectual problems of society.” is what I said, directing the topic to media systems, Lemmy users.

         

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            Ok buddy dogwhistler

            You have serious media ecology literacy problems of electric media systems. I am not dogwhistling, I’m being as blunt and direct as possible. All you seem to be able to do with serious topics of media ecology is mimic Donald Trump Twitter-think Tweet-length reply with 3-word insults and mocking of truth.

            AS BLUNT AND DIRECT AS POSSIBLE:

            All Hate is Bad

            1954 answer from Dr. Martin Luther King Jr

            “Most people can’t stand up for their convictions, because the majority of people might not be doing it. See, everybody’s not doing it, so it must be wrong. And since everybody is doing it, it must be right. So a sort of numerical interpretation of what’s right. But I’m here to say to you this morning that some things are right and some things are wrong. Eternally so, absolutely so. It’s wrong to hate. It always has been wrong and it always will be wrong. It’s wrong in America, it’s wrong in Germany, it’s wrong in Russia, it’s wrong in China. It was wrong in 2000 B.C., and it’s wrong in 1954 A.D. It always has been wrong, and it always will be wrong.”

             

            Repeating again: My message was VERY CLEAR: “Yes it is, and it’s what Clown Populations do on social machines.” - about social machines, Lemmy users. “We don’t need violence, we need people to humanize media systems and stop dehumanizing people they disagree with and start solving the intellectual problems of society.” is what I said, directing the topic to media systems, Lemmy users.

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                Ok buddy dogwhistler

                It’s clear you have a target fixation on me for having autism and not going along with your bullying and dehumanization of those you disagree with. Your “ok buddy” is clearly insincere and dehumanizing of me. I have been as fucking blunt and fucking clear as I can be about hate, and you are dumping hate upon me in your machine lust for Lemmy computer power to dehumanize people you disagree with.

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      When the only language the opposition speaks is violence we have to learn to speak it fluently in order to have a conversation.

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        When the only language the opposition speaks is violence we have to learn to speak it fluently in order to have a conversation.

        I understand people adore hate and violence, it isn’t hard at all for me to see people flock to guns, weapons, hate, mass dehumanization leaders, systems of wrecking human lives and wrecking the planet. People speak hate fluently, it’s love and compassion nobody bothers to learn the language.

         

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          To be clear I don’t adore it but I know no amount of love and compassion will get through to these people and there are enough of them in power we can’t ignore them anymore. Unless our peaceful protest is backed by a willingness to respond to their violence in kind they can simply be ignored. Maybe the solution is economic violence (general strike, sit ins) but when they send police to break it up and arrest people everyone needs to be ready to defend themselves.

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            but I know no amount of love and compassion will get through to these people

            How do you know this?

            It sounds to me like you have so much faith in Hell that you want to build Hell. A very long-standing problem with teaches and educators.

            I also don’t mean Hell is a literal place under the Earth, underground. But an attitude of faith and belief in how love is not worth the effort and war is good.

            I was born in the South of USA, in Georgia in 1969. We had a song on the F.M. radio about your attitude that compassion goes into the trash every time things get difficult. Molly Hatchet, a Florida hard-rock band. “Fall of the Peacemakers”. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gncyDkWWY_w

            The gun-stroking pro-violence hate-preachers who run this nation in April 2025 - every day on social machines I witness why these leaders are popular. People have absolute faith in dehumanizing and killing those they disagree with.

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              Because I see these people every day, because I tried to fight it with love and compassion and understanding since 2016 and every single time they just chose to get worse. Because nobody stopped them, because that’s who they want to be. I’ve lost family and friends to this mind virus who have chosen the cult over the people who love them. They chose hatred over love and more love only enables them to go further away.

              I’ve heard the world they want to bring us and to me that is hell. They’ve driven us to the point that the choice hell for them, or hell for us. I didn’t leave this comment to try and get into a debate so I’ll probably be done responding after this. But if my only choice is two hells I’d rather be the one at my devil’s side than the one under his boot.

              Once they’re thoroughly defeated and their sick cult destroyed that’s the time for kindness. Thats the time for healing. Right now nothing can heal as long as they’re still around and we’re afraid to amputate the rot.

              All that said if you still believe kindness and compassion can save these lost souls then I wish you better luck than I. I do believe some of them can be saved but the harm we let them do to others as we waste time trying isn’t something I’m willing to be part of anymore.

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                My stance is the same as Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

                Technology alone is the crisis

                Terrorism has since proven MLK Jr correct after his death. Technology of drones and new smart ways of killing people from a distance. Without compassion, people will just keep advancing technology of how to wreck other people’s lives with power and force.