What do you mean that it should be wrapped on diversity.
I’m saying that diversity wraps up the the entirety of DEI. It’s all the same thing in modern context. If you support diversity, then that means you support equity and inclusion. If you didn’t, then you wouldn’t be accepting diversity.
And yes, regardless of the narrative that Lemmy likes to put out there, most conservatives are not against diversity. LIke I said, there are many diverse conservatives. Minorities, gay, etc.
Did you think that only straight white guys were conservative?
I know for a fact that an amount of conservatives follow the Christian Bible. 10 commandments, literally tells them what to do and not to do and they take the whole thing so seriously.
I’m not one of those that pull the straight white guy card believe it or not. I mostly look at the policies, and goals specifically of a said party. COmbined with the goals of a said administration.
I know for a fact that an amount of conservatives follow the Christian Bible.
And I know for a fact that an amount of liberals follow the Christian Bible. 10 commandments, literally tells them what to do and not to do and they take the whole thing so seriously.
And plenty of liberals are muslim, baha’i, jewish, orthodox, Buddhist, etc.
What about all the atheist conservatives? Or the Buddhist conservatives. Or the gay conservatives. Or the black conservatives. Or the indian conservatives, etc. How would you explain that if all conservatives are just christians who only follow the bible?! lol
You’re young. You haven’t even seen close to much of the real world yet. You’re getting most of your info from Lemmy, Reddit, and streamers. That’s just not reflective of most of the US.
Which is why Trump won, and you all were so surprised. Because you just don’t know how most of the US really is.
It’s just like when Luigi shot the healthcare exec. If you followed and believed Lemmy, you’d think the whole world was gonna rise up and stand against healthcare and rich people!!
It didn’t happen. LMAO There was no revolution. There will be no revolution. Lemmy is just not representative of reality. So when Lemmy is telling you that all conservatives are against DEI, they’re wrong. And sometimes just outright lying to sway people like you.
I’m not here to change your mind on shit. Just do your own research. Listen to different news programs, both liberal AND conservative.
If you listen to both, and stay in the middle, you’ll realise a lot of the misinformation is put out the to make sure people don’t agree. lol.
What does being black or Indian ad etc have to do with being conservative, you keep merging race into it when I didn’t mention that in this context.
And, no no, I do have a point with Christianity that logically ties with our conversation, I didn’t just say this ignorantly. And that is, conservatives use a specific translation of the Bible to censor gay people and trans people. Bodittle, is a popular conservative, and traditional values content creator known for doing this. Among many others. They are known for doing this, this isn’t just going off of just what Lemmy says.
So when I or anyone hears of a conservative supports all three forms of dei, it’s hard to believe. Because the right, which includes conservatives, are some of the worse offenders that go against diversity equity and inclusion. Inclusion by itself they are probably fine with that but I know they couldn’t stand equity. The right had a whole problem with that and was literally blasting about that everywhere they could the lat 4 years. It was so out in the open, that it’s almost like how do you not figure that the right was against dei?
What does being black or Indian ad etc have to do with being conservative, you keep merging race into it when I didn’t mention that in this context.
Because you didn’t think conservatives believed in DEI. Dude, conservatism is DEI.
And that is, conservatives use a specific translation of the Bible to censor gay people and trans people.
SOME do, not all. Just like there are some liberals that use specific translations of the Bible. You do realize that not all conservatives are religious, and not all liberals are non-religious, right?
So when I or anyone hears of a conservative supports all three forms of dei, it’s hard to believe.
Plenty of things are true whether you believe them or not. Do you seriously think Trump and Musk read the bible and are religious?! LMAO Come on, man. Give me a break.
Can you point to any conservative/right leaning news sources, that supported dei that were *not happy when Trump decided on changing the legal landscape around it. If you can’t that’s because the alt right is against dei. It’s about the movement itself, not the specific individual. The alt rght/conservatives are about traditional values, not progressive values. It’s in the movement itself. A little amount of research into conservatism and what it means, or some experience would had helped you figure.
Dude, I’m not really here to have a historical debate on DEI. Nothing I say is gonna change your mind. You think all conservatives are against equality, I have said they are not. Just a quick search shows information that backs BOTH of our responses, so this debate is pointless.
Just a quick search at fox news shows:
Democrats have lost their way on women’s sports | Fox News
March 18, 2025 — Their alarmist strategy opposing a straightforward bill to define female athletes for the purpose of enforcing equal opportunity under Title IX …
FaviconFox News
CHRISTOPHER RUFO: The campaign for colorblind equality just …
January 20, 2025 — The polling data indicated that Americans supported a “colorblind society” over a "race-
Not to mention major republicans have shown it:
Ken Mehlman, former chairman of the Republican National Committee, has been a prominent advocate for LGBTQ+ rights. He lobbied Republican legislators to support same-sex marriage and argued that such support aligns with conservative principles of individual freedom and limited government.
Not to mention all the black republicans and black republican supporters. Gay republican and gay republican supporters. Minority republicans and minority republican supporters.
And I know you can find just as many articles that show they don’t.
But the mere fact that there are plenty of examples to prove both of our points shows that not ALL republicans are againts DEI. I’m republican and I am not against DEI.
Move on. This argument will go nowhere.
I also know that if a republican left a fucking brick, with nazi symbols and words on it, on a car in a Jewish neighborhood, Lemmy would call that person a Nazi. You know this too.
I’m saying that anyone, regardless of party, who leaves a fucking brick, with nazi symbols and words on it, on a car in a Jewish neighborhood, is a Nazi.
Move on. I’m not changing my mind. Neither are you.
I was genuinely curious about that that’s why I asked you about it when you said that. I wasn’t aiming to argue it, but it’s not something you hear a lot about even off of Lemmy. I wasn’t aiming to argue it. But I was sharing some of my perspective and what I heard a lot of even just on the news. Not even social media, but from the news media. I asked because if this is actually the case, then that information. I know you said to move on but I wanted to clarify I wasn’t aiming to argue it. I was asking you in good faith.
Also, when I was explaining to you the reasoning why they did that, that’s literally all I was saying, the reasoning that lead them up to doing the action they did. Which I even mentioned before how these protesters that were making these actions, was a trend.
Continueing the original post topic at hand,
Would you say that even if the cause of either side is with the intended to further support the common good of others, in this cause LGBTQ and other minority rights? Would be nazism. That the left are nazi’s themselves? Not just the right leaning side? Any side protesting and laying a brick and/or left nazi symbols, is a Nazi?
Conservatives are for that? Had no idea the right supported diversity equit and inclusion.
What do you mean that it should be wrapped on diversity. Does that make any changs to dei?
I’m saying that diversity wraps up the the entirety of DEI. It’s all the same thing in modern context. If you support diversity, then that means you support equity and inclusion. If you didn’t, then you wouldn’t be accepting diversity.
And yes, regardless of the narrative that Lemmy likes to put out there, most conservatives are not against diversity. LIke I said, there are many diverse conservatives. Minorities, gay, etc.
Did you think that only straight white guys were conservative?
I know for a fact that an amount of conservatives follow the Christian Bible. 10 commandments, literally tells them what to do and not to do and they take the whole thing so seriously.
I’m not one of those that pull the straight white guy card believe it or not. I mostly look at the policies, and goals specifically of a said party. COmbined with the goals of a said administration.
And I know for a fact that an amount of liberals follow the Christian Bible. 10 commandments, literally tells them what to do and not to do and they take the whole thing so seriously.
And plenty of liberals are muslim, baha’i, jewish, orthodox, Buddhist, etc.
What about all the atheist conservatives? Or the Buddhist conservatives. Or the gay conservatives. Or the black conservatives. Or the indian conservatives, etc. How would you explain that if all conservatives are just christians who only follow the bible?! lol
You’re young. You haven’t even seen close to much of the real world yet. You’re getting most of your info from Lemmy, Reddit, and streamers. That’s just not reflective of most of the US.
Which is why Trump won, and you all were so surprised. Because you just don’t know how most of the US really is.
It’s just like when Luigi shot the healthcare exec. If you followed and believed Lemmy, you’d think the whole world was gonna rise up and stand against healthcare and rich people!!
It didn’t happen. LMAO There was no revolution. There will be no revolution. Lemmy is just not representative of reality. So when Lemmy is telling you that all conservatives are against DEI, they’re wrong. And sometimes just outright lying to sway people like you.
I’m not here to change your mind on shit. Just do your own research. Listen to different news programs, both liberal AND conservative.
If you listen to both, and stay in the middle, you’ll realise a lot of the misinformation is put out the to make sure people don’t agree. lol.
What does being black or Indian ad etc have to do with being conservative, you keep merging race into it when I didn’t mention that in this context.
And, no no, I do have a point with Christianity that logically ties with our conversation, I didn’t just say this ignorantly. And that is, conservatives use a specific translation of the Bible to censor gay people and trans people. Bodittle, is a popular conservative, and traditional values content creator known for doing this. Among many others. They are known for doing this, this isn’t just going off of just what Lemmy says.
So when I or anyone hears of a conservative supports all three forms of dei, it’s hard to believe. Because the right, which includes conservatives, are some of the worse offenders that go against diversity equity and inclusion. Inclusion by itself they are probably fine with that but I know they couldn’t stand equity. The right had a whole problem with that and was literally blasting about that everywhere they could the lat 4 years. It was so out in the open, that it’s almost like how do you not figure that the right was against dei?
Because you didn’t think conservatives believed in DEI. Dude, conservatism is DEI.
SOME do, not all. Just like there are some liberals that use specific translations of the Bible. You do realize that not all conservatives are religious, and not all liberals are non-religious, right?
Plenty of things are true whether you believe them or not. Do you seriously think Trump and Musk read the bible and are religious?! LMAO Come on, man. Give me a break.
How old are you?
Can you point to any conservative/right leaning news sources, that supported dei that were *not happy when Trump decided on changing the legal landscape around it. If you can’t that’s because the alt right is against dei. It’s about the movement itself, not the specific individual. The alt rght/conservatives are about traditional values, not progressive values. It’s in the movement itself. A little amount of research into conservatism and what it means, or some experience would had helped you figure.
Dude, I’m not really here to have a historical debate on DEI. Nothing I say is gonna change your mind. You think all conservatives are against equality, I have said they are not. Just a quick search shows information that backs BOTH of our responses, so this debate is pointless.
Just a quick search at fox news shows:
Democrats have lost their way on women’s sports | Fox News March 18, 2025 — Their alarmist strategy opposing a straightforward bill to define female athletes for the purpose of enforcing equal opportunity under Title IX …
FaviconFox News CHRISTOPHER RUFO: The campaign for colorblind equality just … January 20, 2025 — The polling data indicated that Americans supported a “colorblind society” over a "race-
Not to mention major republicans have shown it: Ken Mehlman, former chairman of the Republican National Committee, has been a prominent advocate for LGBTQ+ rights. He lobbied Republican legislators to support same-sex marriage and argued that such support aligns with conservative principles of individual freedom and limited government.
Not to mention all the black republicans and black republican supporters. Gay republican and gay republican supporters. Minority republicans and minority republican supporters.
And I know you can find just as many articles that show they don’t.
But the mere fact that there are plenty of examples to prove both of our points shows that not ALL republicans are againts DEI. I’m republican and I am not against DEI.
Move on. This argument will go nowhere.
I also know that if a republican left a fucking brick, with nazi symbols and words on it, on a car in a Jewish neighborhood, Lemmy would call that person a Nazi. You know this too.
I’m saying that anyone, regardless of party, who leaves a fucking brick, with nazi symbols and words on it, on a car in a Jewish neighborhood, is a Nazi.
Move on. I’m not changing my mind. Neither are you.
I was genuinely curious about that that’s why I asked you about it when you said that. I wasn’t aiming to argue it, but it’s not something you hear a lot about even off of Lemmy. I wasn’t aiming to argue it. But I was sharing some of my perspective and what I heard a lot of even just on the news. Not even social media, but from the news media. I asked because if this is actually the case, then that information. I know you said to move on but I wanted to clarify I wasn’t aiming to argue it. I was asking you in good faith.
Also, when I was explaining to you the reasoning why they did that, that’s literally all I was saying, the reasoning that lead them up to doing the action they did. Which I even mentioned before how these protesters that were making these actions, was a trend.
Continueing the original post topic at hand,
Would you say that even if the cause of either side is with the intended to further support the common good of others, in this cause LGBTQ and other minority rights? Would be nazism. That the left are nazi’s themselves? Not just the right leaning side? Any side protesting and laying a brick and/or left nazi symbols, is a Nazi?