• wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    10 days ago

    I really enjoy interpreting the Jesus Christ at the end not as a quote attribution, but as a frustrated epithet thrown in at the end.

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    10 days ago

    Aneurysm aside, good question. I wonder if I’d agree with their interpretation of what Jesus says and what that means for society, though.

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      10 days ago

      This isn’t aneurysm and is just poorly laid out mixed with old timey language.

      Why call ye me “Lord”, and do not the things which I say?

      “Why call ye me Lord” is the same question verb/object ordering of when someone says “what say you?” … “why do you call me Lord”

      “Do not the things which I say” is just replacing “don’t do” with “Do not.” It’s really weird in modern english. But you don’t need a second do to make sense. Heck, the previous sentence didn’t need a “do”… “You need not a second do” is a perfectly valid sentence, that’s just not how colloquially we form sentences anymore.

      But more to your point, anyone who has a sign this big on their car is probably more concerned about the time Jesus said “homosexuality is a sin” [citation needed], and less about the time he said “love thy neighbor” [Mark 12:31].

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        10 days ago

        How does “LORD LORD” fit into your explanation?

        But more to your point, anyone who has a sign this big on their car is probably more concerned about the time Jesus said “homosexuality is a sin” [citation needed], and less about the time he said “love thy neighbor” [Mark 12:31].

        Exactly! At least in the US, christian groups are generally in favor of rightwing policies (they’re decidedly to the left of certain ‘conservative’ policies here in Germany, e.g. immigration), which are clearly not in the spirit of Jesus. Sending immigrants to gulags isn’t christian.

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          Thank you. Every single time I read a comment like this, I don’t feel so alone. You get it.

          I’m a Christian anarchist myself. There are lots of us scattered believers out there of many philosophies, even in the U.S, who understand that Jesus is love and He is for everyone, and we are called to love even our enemies.

          Sadly, it’s harder to find us. We don’t have wealthy benefactors and think-tanks and politicians and mega-stadium churches, where sermons are more akin to conservative feel-good self-help seminars than Bible study.

          The Gospel of Christ has been warped and co-opted by the rich and powerful to make them feel good about themselves, and to lure the masses to want to be like them, instead of like Jesus. They want Bibles closed and wallets open.

          It’s one of the most ongoing and successful false flag operations in history: The americhristian cult has done so much damage. Indeed, how can one worship Jesus and money? Or a flag?

          But we’re still out there trying to just be the best people we can. I appreciate it when people of any belief acknowledge the existence of flawed-but-trying Christians who will gladly ally with you to the death against this cult of hatred and lies.

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          10 days ago

          How does “LORD LORD” fit into your explanation?

          It’s literally the KJV wording of Luke 6:46

          And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

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          The word LORD in Bibles is actually the same thing as when people put G-d instead of “God”… Anywhere LORD appears in a bible in block capitals, the original text actually had יהוה - the tetragrammaton. Which is “god’s name”, and they decided that printing the name would be using it in vain, so they replaced it with something else, so people could read the bible without sinning.

          It wouldn’t surprise me if “Lord יהוה” appeared somewhere in the original text and just got written out as “Lord LORD”… but again, actually knowing anything about religion isn’t actually the point of using religion as a bludgeon for controlling the masses. Why proof read your sign when you need to get out on the streets to let people know they aren’t doing things your Jesus’s way.

          Or it’s possible they just wanted it to be taller without being wider. and couldn’t figure out font sizing, so they just doubled it up.

          Or they think that doubling a word adds emphasis or something.

          Or they’re just complete morons. It’s probably this one.

          And either way, I dont think repeating a single word erroneously would make an an aneurysm.

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            I always thought of the repeated “Lord” almost to be like, a mocking repetition of those who come running to you for advice or wisdom and then disregard it entirely when you don’t instantly solve all their problems.

            Like “Oh yeah sure, you kids come running ‘Dad, dad!’ when you want something, but where are you when I need help in the garage?”

            But there could be other interesting explanations. Never really thought of that!

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      10 days ago

      It’s not a good question, it’s based on an incorrect assumption. I don’t call Jesus “Lord” so I don’t give a shit what his followers think he said two millennia ago.

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        It’s clearly not directed at you since you don’t call Jesus Lord. Whether or not it is a good question seems to be a different subject than what you’re addressing.

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        Well, in context what he said was directed to people who did call him Lord. And you should consider caring, most of his modern “followers” are nutjobs, but most of the quotes attributed to him are based. Love your neighbor, call out hypocrites, keep your faith between you and God instead of flaunting it for social credibility.