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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many āesotericā right wing freaks, but thereās no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iām talking redscare-ish, reality challenged āculture criticsā who write about everything but understand nothing. Iām talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyāre inescapable at this point, yet I donāt see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnāt be surgeons because they didnāt believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canāt escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting thisā¦)
New BlueSky post from Baldur Bjarnason:
It really sucks so much how many coders embrace it. At my work, there is the looming introduction of code LLMs very soon, and Iām anxious to learn how many of my colleagues will happily use it, and the consequences it will have for me to deal with the results (and generally, how it will make me feel to work in an environment where these tools are embraced). I was hoping that the corporate bureaucracy would be slow enough that the AI bubble collapses before itās allowed to use the tools, but unfortunately management put a lot of pressure behind it and it all went faster than expected :(
not every programmer posts to social mediaā¦
Id say a lot of the better ones dont at least not regularly (in my exp), did hear from one of those that they had a problem with new hires, some lf them have very random output quality wise, until they get fired for using llms for everything.
Our company is currently looking for a new programmer and weāve interviewed a few so far. I donāt want to generalize but it really seems that a non-negligible part of the younger ones at least tries to use LLMs to make up for a lack or experience, and that really shows.
I normally donāt like doing programming challenges during an interview because they have little to no real-world connections, but Iāve been throwing small questions around lately just to see what people do, and how they approach them, and thereās a subset of people who will say, āI would ask ChatGPT nowā in those scenarios.
I havenāt met a vibe-coder in real life yet, but Iām afraid itās only a matter of time.
I havenāt worked in industry for a while now but from your accounts it seems likeā¦ nothingās changed?
Sturgeonās law very much applies to software engineers. Iām sorry but the vast majority of people in my junior cohort I wouldnāt hire to replace my lightbulb. Of course theyāre all in on LLMs. Theyāll be doing what they were doing best, generating tons of awful code they copied from somewhere else that the adults in the room will have to clean up later, just the generation and copying is now paid at a $100 monthly subscription.
Like seriously, it doesnāt matter even a tiny bit the code got generated by a bullshit machine when the code is Node.JS anyway. If youāre building a giant penis out of cow dung it doesnāt matter who your construction crew is and how good they are. And the industry is like 90% building giant penises than never come to fruition anyway.
Fair points, but I still take cleaning up someoneās own bad Node.JS code over cleaning up LLM Node.JS slop because the optimist in me hopes that the human who wrote bad code can at least learn something and become better over time. After all we all have started with writing garbage, I know that I have.
On the other hand, I guess I should find a job where I donāt have to touch web development with a ten-foot pole because itās probably not getting better.