yeah. There’s a difference between (for example) a transphobe screaming at you, and someone who doesn’t fully understand all the terms but supports you being yourself. People in the comments are thinking it’s more of the former than the ladder.

As a trans person, that absolutely isn’t how I or other leftists in the spaces I’m in use this phrase. It means to avoid letting disagreement over method or end goal distract from a common cause. Just because a candidate doesn’t run for my specific brand of leftism doesn’t mean I won’t support them over a neoliberal opponent.

It’s an unfortunate but necessary genocide

Edit: I don’t support it!! But at this point it’s pretty clear it’s necessary, no? As liberals we need to be honest with ourselves at least.

This is true, but it’s a good reminder that most people don’t act like this meme. We should remember that minorities don’t owe us their vote, and we should stand up for them

Right? Like, if someone’s promising Free Grog and Good Times, they’re probably LeChuck in disguise.

Yes, I made an Escape From Monkey Island reference.

First time I played that game, I felt stupid for not realizing the guy named “Charles L. Charles” with the same voice actor as LeChuck, was in fact, LeChuck.

Yes, this is the attitude they are referring to.

Exactly. If you don’t want to be deported, you’re going to have to be okay with genociding some folks.

🤦

I’d read again just to double check.

Allies = Aliens???

It is likely that when it comes time to finally put down the rabid dog named MAGA once and for all, it is going to require allying with the Traditional GOP.

Kamala tried that, it lead to Leftists not voting for Kamala Harris because they no longer saw a difference between her and Trump, and Rightists didn’t vote for Kamala Harris because even the “Never-Trumper” faction of the party gets in line behind whoever the GOP tells them to. Because Republicans have something Democrats will never have, unquestionable brand loyalty.

MAGA will be not be defeated by cooperating with Conservatives who fear that they “Must defeat Trump to save the party”, this is because Conservatives do not have an ideology, they have a tribe, and their tribe must always win or their Gods will hold them accountable.

If Conservatives turn against MAGA, it will be because they’ve been directly targeted by MAGA and are looking for a way out, and by the time that happens it’ll already be too late. “No one left to speak for me” as the poem goes.

That said, the Right Wing portion of the Supreme Court is turning against Trump for this exact reason, they realize that if they don’t he will just get rid of the Supreme Court and rule directly.

If “The TRUE Republicans” wanted to work with us to destroy Trumpism, I’d gladly accept their help, but they will NEVER work against the tribe.

Personally, I think Free America and the Allies would be teaming up with the Mexican Cartels. If anyone can terrorize the Trump Regime, it would be them. IMO, it wouldn’t be surprising if Mexico and the Allies promise to give away Texas to the Cartels as a spoil of war.

There is no substantive difference between “MAGA” and the traditional GOP.

I feel personally attacked by your vague statement and therefore see you as an enemy for life

the importance of that relatively minor thing also matters though, we can’t just purity test everybody for everything, even if it’s objectively correct, not all of it matters.

I would rather lose all my rights than stand beside ten thousand men who think neopronouns are cringe.

I get what you’re saying, but if we sequester ourselves to niche spaces, how can we spread information? Isn’t it important to reach Facebook users?

Using Facebook to attract disgruntled hostiles who are potentially ripe for recruitment, or those who are politically agnostic and getting angry at what is happening to them, and poisoning one of their primary propganda mouthpieces, are all important missions.

The coup? Who is overthrowing what exactly? I seriously just dont understand these things. I can’t imagine it’s very legit if there hasn’t been a call to arms. That’s why we bear arms, right? For perhaps an attempted coup.

Leftist broadly have gotten used to attacking their own side because they’re not the angry, mindless orcs that the right nurtures, and thus it’s simply easier to police your own side and win arguments against other people with minds than try to butt heads against orcs who don’t care and have no interest in thoughtful conversation.

It feels like action, it feels like some kind of accomplishment that you got some progressive content creator railroaded off the internet because they had a dumb take on israel once or used the R slur at some point.

One thing I’ve been grappling with is I would completely support a violent overthrow of the Trump admin, as I don’t consider him legitimate because of the insurrection clause, but I would never ever even discuss the subject with a bunch of tankies or anarchists because they’re just supporting destruction of our protected rights all the same as the enemy.

I feel like a lot of progressive vocabulary words get used outside the contexts where they apply.

“It’s not my job to educate you” is a fair and valid thing to say when someone demands you defend the validity of your identity while you’re just trying to live your life. It’s unreasonable to expect every trans person to explain the history and complexity of gender to every chud who gives them shit.

It is, however, the opposite of activism and super unhelpful for an activist to say while ostensibly trying to build a movement.

Similarly, “mansplaining” is not a blanket term for any man explaining anything, listening to a friend vent is not “emotional labor”, and participating in cultures other than the one you grew up in is not “cultural appropriation”. All real terms that point at real problems, all sometimes used outside the contexts in which they are helpful.

“It’s not my job to educate you” led to Prager University

Yeah I mean I can understand not everyone wants to be an educator, especially of more ignorant people but when people say this I do wonder why they are even talking. I usually speak to people because I am interested in learning from them or because they’re interested in learning from me. This is the purpose of human communication. If you aren’t interested then the obvious solution is to stay silent.

I first started seeing this on reddit (who knows where it actually came from though) which I believe schools its users to want to say SOMETHING, ANYTHING for attention and engagement. I agreed with or rather understood its meaning at one point but this phrase along with has “let me Google that for you” has fostered an abysmal internet culture. I think a much more servicable and sympathetic version of what this phrase was once trying to say, when said in good faith, should be “its not my responsibility to engage with this post right now”, which isn’t spoken aloud but is applicable to everyone online, and which I find myself thinking more and more when a comment makes me groan. The problem is how driven we all are to say SOMETHING, ANYTHING for attention amd engagement. I think it was a valuable realization at the time that felt so good to fire off uncritically on Twitter that people really hurt themselves, others, and the internet’s culture when they did.

You need to educate the right people at the right times, more than anything. I swear both this original message and most of the replies to it, like this one, speak of wild levels of inexperience in how to socialize and make people unite with you.

If you can choose between spending your energy addressing the stupid, ill-informed ideas posted by liberal Americans on Facebook or Reddit and withstanding a little public trolling, or spending your energy “educating” a vocal, prominent leftist who makes content about something they’re doing wrong or some word they’re misusing or some marginalized group they might be offending, can you guess what’s going to help the cause more?

(The really sad part here is that some people are reading this trying to weigh both options.)

yeah, it just cheapens the message heavily

Yea I haven’t even read the message, the second I saw the text wobble I came to the comments to see who else has already called it out.

Another sepia toned AI comic.

“Perfection is the enemy of progress”