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    Small American businesses are adopting Leopards, no faces are expected to be eaten

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    They could’ve simply asked him to spawn domestic production chains with an executive order, duh! Read Art Of The Deal, dumb dumbs.

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    “Damn that’s wild because I voted for you to have zero tariffs and a $50K tax break as a small business owner under Kamala,” reads the top comment under the video.

    One of the best comments because it’s true and he can’t dismiss it as people being mean or reveling in his pain, just stating reality.

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    “Yeah, I voted for Trump, absolutely. Did I know he was going to increase the tariffs? Yes, I did,” he said. “However, I thought that the infrastructure would be set up prior for small business to come back to America and manufacture in America. …"

    When the fuck did Trump promise that, bozo? Small business support was the Biden/Harris campaign platform.

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      He’s lying. He did not think that, he’s only saying that retroactively because that’s something that he’s just recently learned about tariffs.

      Dude is retconning his own memory in an attempt to avoid the cognitive dissonance.

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        That’s exactly what’s happening.

        He considered the tariff proposal with vibe-based reasoning.

        Bringing manufacturing back to America sounds like something that might be good. Someone says tariffs will do that. That’s the extent of the thinking.

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      Hear me out: We pool our money together to pay for the infrastructure. It will be a percentage of your income for it. Those who make more money pay a higher percentage because they benefit from that infrastructure more. Then we have organizations to make sure the money is fairly collected and responsibly spent and make sure they can do their work unhindered.

      Oh wait, that’s like the opposite of what Trump has been doing.

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      What gets me is what infrastructure did he think would be setup? Did he expect magical wheel factories to appear for him to start distributing from? It’s not like he’s designing or something guy is just drop shipping cheap alloy wheels.

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          I mean… politically I 100% agree with you, but most people are emotional fuckwits. We are humans and overriding our instincts is not only very difficult, but we delude ourselves into thinking we are better at it then we are. Yeah that includes me.

          We aren’t divided by our intellect but by our experiences. When I was younger and more insular, I was a conservative (technically a “fiscal conservative, social liberal,” which I’ve since learned is a position possible only through ignorance). As I gained experience with more types of people, I gained perspective that granted me a more liberal outlook.

          I didn’t get any smarter. Hell, I wish I was still twenty and knew everything about everything. I think even the stupidest of us can learn, but it takes being exposed to different perspectives.

          Anyway, I understand the instinct to decry Republicans as universally idiots, and sometimes I fall into the same trap. But it’s my perspective that makes me give more credence to left-wing sources and ideas, and their lack of it that leads them to believe only right-wing sources that say the things that emotionally resonate with them.

          I don’t know that I’m arguing with you as such. I don’t even know that you don’t understand that and “moron fuckwit” isn’t just cathartic shorthand for the above, which I would totally do myself. But every once in a while I feel the need to point out that we’re all human and more unites us than divides us (granted many conservatives don’t feel that way…) and I guess this was just the post that triggered it.

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            You’ve done more self reflection in this one comment than old white sunglasses pfp have in their entire lives.

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            True wisdom is understanding how much you don’t know! And to a certain extent what you say is true.

            But, as Bill Watterson once said, ‘most ignorance is willful’. Quite a lot of people don’t want to look into things more than surface level, because it’s too much work, and too scary to step outside of their comfort zones.

            And, y’know, I’d be kind of fine with that? Except their ignorance is actively hurting people.

            And then, sadly, there’s a lot of people who are just bullies, and use their ignorance to prop up their fragile egos. A friend of mine has been disowned by her family because she’s trans. They refuse to speak to her, and have been cheering on Trump’s deportations and treatment of trans folks.

            What do you even do with people like that?

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              True wisdom is understanding how much you don’t know!

              Which is what makes narcissists in positions of power so goddamn dangerous

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              I really struggle with that one. When you hate your own child, I think you’re dealing with something more than just ignorance. I think you’re dealing with parents who have a child and then wanted the child to be a certain way and are upset and disappointed and feel like their dreams have been stolen by the “choices” of their own child. It’s a kind of narcissism, I’d guess?

              I don’t know but you’re right that you can’t just expose them any further to help them understand. They feel like their dreams or legacy or whatever has been attacked. My step-son’s dad took several years to come around and accept that his only son is gay, but he did. But a close friend of mine lost many family members when she transitioned.

              It’s something more than just ignorance. I have my own ideas to explain it, but no thoughts on how to fix it. I suspect it’s a lot of patriarchy—men who think they are entitled to control their wives and children to a large degree (and women who accept and embrace that). Probably a bit of religious identity where they’ve been told the entity that grants eternal life also forbids who their child is and they feel they must love their god more than their child.

              No you’re right that there are people whose sense of identity is tied to hatred and control of others. Even that I think is less stupidity and more an inability to detach the parts of their identity that hurt people around them that they should love.

              Good call out, for sure.

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      This is a neighbour to the “Shirley Exception”. Let’s call it the “Shirley Prerequisite.”

      People will hear an idea they broadly like, and rather than actually examine how its going to be implemented, they’ll simply assume that it will be the way that they would implement it, because to them that’s obviously the only logical way to do it. Sometimes their way is the logical way, sometimes it isn’t, but the point is that they can’t get out of their head enough to consider any other possibility.

      In this case, the possibility left unconsidered is that Trump is a fucking moron.

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    Trump thinks factories are magic. They aren’t things you can just conjure out of the ether by sacrificing a pile of cash - it takes hard work, thinking, and negotiation.

    Things that Trump is incapable of.

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    Oh fuck that guy. He knew good and goddamn well those tariffs would hurt people. He just didn’t care because he thought they would not affect him. Cry that your cruelty backfired all you want, but I also love this for you. I hope he gets even more of what he voted for.

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    However, I thought that the infrastructure would be set up prior for small business to come back to America and manufacture in America. So to wish ill on someone and to love the fact that they’re suffering, to love the fact that their family is being negatively affected, because I didn’t vote the same way that you did is [expletive] up

    This guy is a double idiot. That he would think the manufacturing would be around before the tariffs went into place. it’s just silly thinking.

    But also that he believes “go woke, go broke” isn’t the exact same thing he’s facing, is a whole other level of ignorance.

    There’s no way this person isn’t just rage bait. No one could truly be this fucking regraded. I refuse to believe there are people this genuinely ignorant who aren’t just out there for rage bait.

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      I keep saying this, but there was at least one Jew… In a concentration camp… That thought Hitler was a misunderstood hero of the Jews.

      He was nicknamed Berliner and beat other Jews into submission at Sobibor Concentration Camp. Eventually he was lynched by the other prisoners

      Human perspective is far too malleable.

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      My conservative parents literally believe that the tariffs are making it faster and easier to build US manufacturing because of the “money it’s raising”…

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      Lmao you haven’t been to Trump Country if you think someone can’t be stupid enough to be like this unironically. I live in a district that went like 80% for Trump and most people are like this here lmao.

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      With that kind of naiveté it’s remarkable he even has a business to lose, but sadly, I have no doubt he’s every bit as stupid as he seems. I deal with a lot of very dumb small business owners in my own industry.

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        The “business” is just up charging and drop shipping stuff other people have made, it’s just scams on scams all the way down.

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      Maybe, but cognitive dissonance is a powerful thing. Certainly could be rage bait but I wouldn’t be so quick to assume he didn’t legitimately believe tariffs would benefit him.

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      regraded

      Can we fucking not? Everyone knows you mean an abelist slur. It’s not less hateful because you changed a few letters. Also, it makes you sound like one of those weirdos that uses terms like “seggs” or “grape.”

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    Yes. Prospect for land. Work with local regulators on zoning and permits. spend millions.

    Hire architects, contractors. Go through several phases of designs and decisions. Spend millions.

    Research manufacturing equipment. Price sellers and eventually buy manufacturing equipment. Spend millions.

    Hire and train staff, costing millions.

    Power on manufacturing plant (costs millions).

    Pay employees (costing WAY more than it did overseas)…

    And then like, yeah, smooth sailing baby…?

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    I’ve had a handful of conversations with trumpians who think this is all 4d geopolitical macroeconomic chess. And every single one of them are essentially convinced that some weird, bastardized, reductive model of global economics that exists in the collective headspace of the maga-sphere is The Way It Works. And it simply doesnt work that way. They’re convinced everyone else in the world HAS to do business with us, when that couldn’t be further from the truth. NATO allies have reconsidered buying our military hardware, for fucks sake. Sure, it’ll be painful for them for a bit, but a lot of our former allies now (correctly) view us as a clear and present danger. This is outside the bounds of the post-cold war context that we’ve existed in for several decades. This is a new era. This is the end of Pax Americana. And they don’t seem to be able to admit that it’s happening.

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      They’re convinced everyone else in the world HAS to do business with us

      That seems to be a widespread opinion amongst a lot of the international elite. Germany thought Putin was never going to risk war because it would kill his European fossil fuel revenue and destroy his economy.

      Then Putin himself did the same thing, thinking he could starve Europe in a fossil fuel winter.

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      This is exactly what they think.

      For example, american car factories only make 70% of their capacity. European car factories currently export 50-60% of their product to the USA.

      So if there is any idea with the tarriffs (debatable), it’s that the USA will have to grow domestic production (easy) while the rest of the world needs to shrink production (hard).

      In other words, there are no other consumers rich enough to buy all this stuff.

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          Yes, I agree. Just as with the production/consumption disruption, the current US administration seems to be abandoning the Pax Americana commitments that led to a world of interrelations and dependencies that went beyond trade and economics. This has huge implications. The usa still has a very large military capacity, but the balance of power and what it is going to be used for…these are now in flux in a way we have not seen in living memory.

          In a way, its the same logic being applied: that Europe or south America or whatever places are not capable of becoming a rival global power.

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      They can’t admit it because it’s an echo chamber. Trump tells them what they want to hear. They feel smarter for being validated by the president so they ignore the nagging voice that things aren’t going to plan because the only possible explanation is NOT that they were wrong and don’t understand these complex issues, but that even though they can’t see the full picture, they were right. Then all the other people in the same position agree that 4D chess is being played and they all voted a smart vote and the endorphins flood their brain again

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      They’ll never admit it, because there’s a chance some liberal will say those 4 dreaded words: “I told you so.”

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    Is putting small companies out of business better for the country? No. Is putting this guy out of business better for the country? Maybe. 🤷🏻

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        Rim importers are very important to our economy. Without them there are no jobs importing rims. These rim jobs are something not everyone is willing to do. We should praise those who are willing to perform these rim jobs.