I’m convinced lethal injection was intentionally designed to be agony, and torture. There are too many accounts by eyewitnesses of it not being peaceful, and painless.
Afaik the process itself is fine, but it involves things like starting an IV and dosing, and people who are skilled in those kinds of things tend not to be the kind of people who are okay with assisting in an execution. So, the ones who end up doing it are basically cops with a syringe, and -big shock- fuck it up cuz they’re either too stupid to do it correctly or too evil to want to.
I think this applies more widely than just doctors. As a pilot, I could design an execution protocol using nitrogen that would be dirt cheap and totally painless. Any other pilot could write the same one. But I wouldn’t do it, not if you paid me a million dollars. There are too many cases of innocent people getting executed, so I want nothing to do with any of it. Our judicial system is good, but it is not good enough to be relied on for taking life. So I would do nothing to help justify or condone or make tolerable the act of executing prisoners.
Also, this execution is a perfect example. Three bullets to the heart should kill someone dead in seconds. But the article mentions him crying out and flexing for the better part of a minute. That makes me think all three executioners missed the heart, perhaps on purpose.
The problem is, skilled people don’t want to do it. And pharmaceutical companies don’t want their products used in it. So it’s done by unskilled people with a reduced access to products.
Mainly because the drugs administered as anesthesia and loss of consciousness weren’t enough and people botched them in myriad ways, from my current understanding.
Exactly. The protocol was written by somebody with no medical training. So the first drug knocks the person out, the second drug paralyzes them, and the third drug stops the heart. Problem is, the third drug if given to a conscious person is incredibly painful. This created situations where the first drug was dosed wrong, so the person woke up but was unable to move.
Lethal injection could be much better done with a single drug system, like a massive overdose of barbiturates, but I think there is an unspoken desire to avoid any death that might be considered 'pleasant". Which to be honest is completely barbaric in my opinion.
I’m convinced lethal injection was intentionally designed to be agony, and torture. There are too many accounts by eyewitnesses of it not being peaceful, and painless.
Afaik the process itself is fine, but it involves things like starting an IV and dosing, and people who are skilled in those kinds of things tend not to be the kind of people who are okay with assisting in an execution. So, the ones who end up doing it are basically cops with a syringe, and -big shock- fuck it up cuz they’re either too stupid to do it correctly or too evil to want to.
I think this applies more widely than just doctors. As a pilot, I could design an execution protocol using nitrogen that would be dirt cheap and totally painless. Any other pilot could write the same one. But I wouldn’t do it, not if you paid me a million dollars. There are too many cases of innocent people getting executed, so I want nothing to do with any of it. Our judicial system is good, but it is not good enough to be relied on for taking life. So I would do nothing to help justify or condone or make tolerable the act of executing prisoners.
Also, this execution is a perfect example. Three bullets to the heart should kill someone dead in seconds. But the article mentions him crying out and flexing for the better part of a minute. That makes me think all three executioners missed the heart, perhaps on purpose.
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You’re more of an optimist than me.
Holy shit, now that might be the first time anyone’s accused me of that.
Misery loves company I guess. /internet-hug from one dejected motherfucker to another.
Bro, I’m so deep in a depression hole right now. Thanks, I appreciate it.
have another
hug
👍
Warriors have hearts, too…
Létal injection work well in theory
The problem is, skilled people don’t want to do it. And pharmaceutical companies don’t want their products used in it. So it’s done by unskilled people with a reduced access to products.
Mainly because the drugs administered as anesthesia and loss of consciousness weren’t enough and people botched them in myriad ways, from my current understanding.
Exactly. The protocol was written by somebody with no medical training. So the first drug knocks the person out, the second drug paralyzes them, and the third drug stops the heart. Problem is, the third drug if given to a conscious person is incredibly painful. This created situations where the first drug was dosed wrong, so the person woke up but was unable to move.
Lethal injection could be much better done with a single drug system, like a massive overdose of barbiturates, but I think there is an unspoken desire to avoid any death that might be considered 'pleasant". Which to be honest is completely barbaric in my opinion.
You’re not seeing the forest for the trees.
It was ALWAYS intended to not be enough.
I saw it and thought it was plain to see.
My bad, then.
No worries. It was opaque and others may have needed to understand.
Copy that. Have a good one.
Thank you. You too.