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    16 days ago

    Getting the full value of labor has never been a part of any system ever. Where did you get that idea?

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      16 days ago

      Correct. Communism has never been allowed to succeed. Either it’s been co-opted by fascists and dictators from within, or it’s been crushed by the CIA from outside. Many small attempts have shown great promise, however, before the greedy and powerful slaughtered them.

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        16 days ago

        If it’s so easily defeated, don’t you think that maybe it’s inherently flawed? A good system would account for the greedy and powerful.

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          15 days ago

          Aw gee, let’s see; 3rd world nations attempting to create a future for their people vs the CIA. Clearly the problem is a flaw in their political philosophy, not the ruthless, overwhelming superpower that doesn’t want to see that happen because prices might go up.

          Jesus Christ.

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            15 days ago

            Russia has never been 3rd world, they’re the definitive example of 2nd world. They’re literally where the term 2nd world comes from. And China is plenty industrialized too.

            And if they can’t handle hostile powers, then it’s a shit system.

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              15 days ago

              And what did I say about nations attempting communism but being quickly taken over by dictatorships?

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                  15 days ago

                  What a strange idea to consider; that a nation attempting an early experiment to improve society might somehow be drawn off course early by wealthy, powerful psychopaths.

                  My goodness, this must be the first time in human history.

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                    14 days ago

                    When there’s hundreds of millions of lives at stake, you don’t fuck around with an “early experiment”.

                    But the experiment did show one thing, that communism is inherently flawed and will turn into a dictatorship